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applegrove

(123,154 posts)
3. Yes they are trying. The right wing is voting to depose the Conservative
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 11:23 PM
Jan 2022

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Party leader Erin O'Toole who ran in the federal election as a centrist and at times fed red meat to the MAGA base. He lost for being perceived as a hypocrite by both sides. He lost with more votes than anyone else but it is concentrated in Alberta and spread too thin everywhere else to win the federal biggest number of seats. Now it looks like the party could split in two so the party is going to have a vote this week to get rid of him. He met with truckers and denounced violence. He ran as a yahoo for the leadership. Tried to run federally as a centrist non Trumper. The base insisted on been thrown fluffed at times and he obliged. He is a nowhere man. There is a libertarian Trump loving party, the People's Party, to the right of the Conservatives that got 1 million votes in a country of 38 million and O'Toole's party, who got 6 million votes (half of those are more centrist who dislike Trump), are afraid of the Conservative Party splitting or of the People's Party getting all the MAGA Yahoos' votes. Basically it is right wing Americans influencing Alberta over 2 or 3 generations and people over the internet and Trump trying to grow MAGA in Canada by using the anti- vax truckers as a fig leaf. Trump is really unpopular in Canada. He likely wants to get a big base here and then do something big like "Greenland" canada and run in 2024 claiming to be able to unite Canada to the USA. But he is hated here. We hate the disintegration of your democracy as much as you do. We like our social programs. Most accept diversity as our strength. And we have had responsible journalism until the US podcasts were born. Which is why O'Toole ran on killing cbc TV if he won the election: the right wing knows there is no way well informed people in canada will fall for the lies and uncivil society in huge numbers without being indoctrinated with fake news. Maybe Putin/authoritarian are trying to undo the 'don't invade smaller neighbours and absorb them' law in Ukraine for future plans around the world. Ask Tucker what is going on. They call each other and 'anti vax mandate truckers' was a fig leaf because MAGAs or libertarians or the US right wing or Trump or Putin are so unpopular in Canada and we don't like their influence.

Scrivener7

(52,770 posts)
4. From your description, it seems like Canadians are better able to withstand the influence
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 11:31 PM
Jan 2022

than we have been.

applegrove

(123,154 posts)
5. I hope so. They interviewed many truckers and some don't want to be a part
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 11:40 PM
Jan 2022

of the mob they just don't want the jab. On the other hand they interviewed one of the organizers who is a trucker and he said he was having fun.

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