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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 10:35 AM Dec 2019

Sitting in a meeting with a Peer in the House of Lords in 2015... he said something very scary indeed

Just after the 2015 election, I was in a meeting with a Lord. It was about the impact of a new Tory policy on my industry, that was going to have the inevitable negative impact on social mobility. Cause Tories. We were discussing how we could possibly try and influence/change this new strategy with the Secretary of State and the Minister involved. This is what the (Conservative) Peer said (I am of course paraphrasing):

‘Don’t waste your time. They will not listen to you or to me. They have a majority for this first time in years and they are Kings of the Hill. They will do what they want. They do not care for your opinions, they are irrelevant.’

That was with a one nation conservative government with a majority in small double digits.

Now we have a populist right wing government with a much greater majority than that. They will not just think they are Kings of the Hill, they will think that they are Kings of the Universe. And with no effective opposition, their right-wing ego’s will rum amuck unchecked. Oh, goody.

They will do what they want now and there is nothing to stop them. I am resigned to it. Brexit in 3…2…1…

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Sitting in a meeting with a Peer in the House of Lords in 2015... he said something very scary indeed (Original Post) Soph0571 Dec 2019 OP
I can not imagine that Scotland and then N. Ireland will not follow Ireland's EU alliance hlthe2b Dec 2019 #1
There is more power and influence being inside the EU than outside of it. roamer65 Dec 2019 #4
It's a global phenomenon. CrispyQ Dec 2019 #2
Cameron was not running a moderate "One Nation" government T_i_B Dec 2019 #3
Only in comparison with this lot! LeftishBrit Dec 2019 #5

hlthe2b

(106,385 posts)
1. I can not imagine that Scotland and then N. Ireland will not follow Ireland's EU alliance
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 10:50 AM
Dec 2019

and split off. Maybe Wales will be stuck with England, but their future does not seem so bright.

It feels like watching a speeding car headed off a cliff--despite the frantic screams of warning from the masses surrounding--and which started as the ignition was turned.

roamer65

(37,169 posts)
4. There is more power and influence being inside the EU than outside of it.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:53 AM
Dec 2019

Irish unity is coming soon, along with Scottish independence and re-entry into the EU.

CrispyQ

(38,287 posts)
2. It's a global phenomenon.
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 10:57 AM
Dec 2019

Rich, (mostly) white men, whose policies have taken us to an ecological brink, still think they are superior to the rest of us and deserve to continue to rule. The Republican Party in the US has the power and influence to change the global narrative and lack of action on the climate crisis and they do nothing. They do worse than nothing. They deny and obstruct while our planet burns. We are totally unprepared for what's coming down the pike and these (mostly) men are totally unqualified to lead. Humanity is headed for full on FUBAR.

T_i_B

(14,800 posts)
3. Cameron was not running a moderate "One Nation" government
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 02:30 AM
Dec 2019

And one thing I have certainly seen with Tories is a total disregard for facts. What's worse is that it often seems to go beyond merely disregarding inconvenient truths into a total failure to pay attention to detail.

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