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Related: About this forumLocal government, London Mayoral and Scottish Parliamentary elections on 6th May
It's that time of year when I do a thread about the upcoming local elections. This year it's as follows
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/who-we-are-and-what-we-do/elections-and-referendums/upcoming-elections
Local council elections in England
Local and Combined Authority Mayoral elections
Mayor of London and London Assembly elections
Police and Crime Commissioner elections in England and Wales
Welsh Parliamentary election
Scottish Parliamentary election
As always, please feel free to let us know what elections are happening in your neck of the woods and what the local issues are.
Here in Sheffield we have council and PCC elections. Expecting yet more Labour decline to be honest. In my ward the Tories are campaigning hard, although all they will achieve by that is to split the anti-Labour vote. Police and Crime Commissioner elections are generating no interest whatsoever as per usual and there are also Parish Council by-elections where I live as the "independent" group of the Parish council has had an acrimonious split.
msongs
(70,183 posts)accent
T_i_B
(14,800 posts)Having ruined his acting career, he's decided to stand for London Mayor on an utterly ridiculous "war on woke" platform. (Presumably being "woke" means being unwilling to be bored to death by gobshites like Fox who bandy stupid buzzwords like that around like they are going out of fashion.)
He's a keen Trump-humper, and his twitter feed gives him away as being something of a moron.
msongs
(70,183 posts)T_i_B
(14,800 posts)This is what another of the right wing charlatans running for Mayor thinks is a good campaign video!
Link to tweet
Does running for office really have to be something strange men do when they have a mid life crisis?
muriel_volestrangler
(102,502 posts)Link to tweet
"At this point Im just grateful for the option of private medical insurance. I wouldnt want to be treated by a political institution.
An institution so sensitive it needs a round of applause just to finish work."
This was aimed at an NHS psychiatrist who had laughed, on Twitter, that Fox was polling at 1%:
Link to tweet
Fox the "free speech advocate" cannot handle someone laughing at him, so thinks anyone on a public salary should grovel to him.
Emrys
(7,949 posts)No point in repeating what I posted here and in the posts below it: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1088&pid=20377
We now have the first Scottish polling since Alex Salmond launched his new list-only Alba Party, with fieldwork having been done in the days after the launch:
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@PoliticsForScot
🚨 New Scottish Parliament poll, Survation 29 - 30 Mar (changes vs 11 - 18 Mar):
Constituency:
SNP - 49% (-1)
Con - 21% (nc)
Lab - 20% (nc)
LD - 9% (+1)
List:
SNP - 37% (-2)
Lab - 19% (-1)
Con - 18% (-1)
Grn - 11% (nc)
LD - 8% (+1)
Alba - 3% (+3)
Demographic breakdown:
Usual caveats about margins of error apply, but more so because the sample was less than 1,000. Survation has generally had a house effect of tending conservative on its Scottish polling.
The 3% for Alba would likely mean they take no seats at all, but may have unpredictable effects for the SNP and Greens on the list (conversely, they may improve turnout for the SNP marginally among those, a relatively small minority, who were dissillusioned enough to envisage not voting for them this time, but may be persuaded to turn out and vote SNP at constituency and Alba at list level).
This is going to be a difficult election to poll because of ongoing COVID restrictions, which will affect canvassing and possibly turnout. The franchise has also been extended to include 16-year-olds (the SNP enjoy around 70% support among 16-24-year-olds) and foreign citizens who are permanently resident, so there won't be any turnout weighting for them based on historical performance. It's as well to bear this in mind for any Scottish polling during this election.
Alba isn't the only minor party standing. Some constituencies have 20 or more candidates. Since most of them are unionist and in some cases a few hundred votes one way or another in a constituency or region could be decisive without figuring significantly in a national poll, it makes the situation even harder to read.
There's also a Kantar whole-UK poll, though Scottish sub-samples in national polls can be unreliable:
Estimates from the Office for National Statistics suggest that around 8.2% of the UKs population lives in Scotland, meaning a 7% result would be an absolute landslide and is likely outwith the realms of possibility.
However, this represents a 3% increase on Kantars February poll, which found 4% support for the SNP. The firms January poll also found 4% support for the SNP across the UK.
Pollster Mark McGeoghegan said this 3% increase represented a statistically significant change in position for Nicola Sturgeons party, adding that the margin of error at 7% is around 1.5 points.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/19205432.kantar-poll-puts-snp-7-per-cent-uk-vote-going-holyrood-election/
This at least shows no detectable negative effect for the SNP and Sturgeon from the months of Holyrood enquiries around the Salmond affair and attendant, sometimes blanket, bad publicity.
Salmond's performances in his media appearances so far haven't been impressive. He was roasted at the beginning and end of his BBC Radio 4 morning news interview earlier this week about his refusal to apologize to the women involved in his court case for behaviour that may not have been found illegal, but was at least, by his own admission, unacceptable. It's utterly predictable that questions like that will dog him throughout his campaign, and it's surprising that someone who's been seen in the past as a grand strategist doesn't have better prepared answers other than the fact he won two court cases and it's "time to move on".
T_i_B
(14,800 posts)Is the referendum here in Sheffield about changing the local council from a "strong leader" model to a committee system that involves the whole council instead of a few cabinet members.
It's been in the offing for a while, brought on by the high handed behaviour of the Labour group on the council. Especially with regards to the Amey / PFI fiasco. To be honest it's a foregone conclusion as the committee system is backed by all the other parties and even a fair few Labour folk are jumping on the committee system bandwagon. Nobody is speaking out in support of the strong leader model.
Emrys
(7,949 posts)Link to tweet
@markmcgeoghegan
Two points:
1) Panelbase prompted for AP and AFU here. Survation did not. This approach is why the SSP have poll 3% in YouGov polls despite not standing...
2) Panelbase prompted for 'The Alba Party (led by Alex Salmond)'. That is... not good practice...
Mark McGeoghegan ⬋⬋⬋
@markmcgeoghegan
NEW POLL: Panelbase/Sunday Times.
Constituency:
SNP - 49%
Tories - 22%
Labour - 20%
Lib Dems - 6%
List:
SNP - 39%
Tories - 21%
Labour - 17%
Lib Dems - 5%
Greens - 8%
Alba - 6%
AFU - 4%
#SP21 (corrected from AFI to AFU)
Usual caveats about margins of error apply. AFU is Alliance for Unity, George Galloway's latest grift, which is rabidly unionist. It'll be a miracle if it gets anywhere near 4%, and if it does, it could be bad news for the other unionist parties.
Emrys
(7,949 posts)Link to tweet
@GerryHassan
.@IpsosMORIScot & @STVNews poll puts SNP 33% & 17% ahead; Alba on 3% & Galloway on 0.5%.
CONSTITUENCY:
SNP 53%
CON 20%
LAB 18%
LD 6%
GRN 2%
LIST:
SNP 38%
CON 21%
LAB 18%
GRN 12%
LD 6%
ALBA 3%
A4U 0.5%
Sample: 29 March-4 April
Constituency vote:
A (necessarily tentative) seat projection from that:
Whatever its shortcomings, this seems more realistic about Galloway's A4U's (Alliance for Unity, a.k.a. AFU) prospects than a previous poll which put them on 4% (and which seriously put the wind up the Tories).
Emrys
(7,949 posts)Link to tweet
Opinium @OpiniumResearch
🚨 BREAKING 🚨
New Scotland poll with @SkyNews
Despite divisions between Salmond and Sturgeon the SNP have increased their support. Margins are still very tight, but this puts them back on course for a majority.
https://news.sky.com/story/scottish-elections-sturgeons-snp-set-for-majority-but-salmonds-alba-unlikely-to-get-single-seat-sky-news-poll-12268966
Opinium
@OpiniumResearch
Constituency vote:
SNP 53% (+7)
Con 21% (-3)
Lab 18% (-2)
Lib Dem 6% (NC)
Regional list vote:
SNP 44% (+2)
Con 22% (NC)
Lab 17% (-2)
Green 7% (NC)
Lib Dem 5% (NC)
Alba 2% (NEW)
"Other" on the list vote will include Galloway's AFU, among a slew of other minor parties.
Any conclusions at this stage (and even up to the election itself) are highly tentative, and there's always the margin of error to take into account. On its website, Sky News wrote:
The SNP would have 71 seats, while the Conservatives would be on 27 seats, Labour on 21, the Greens on 6 and Lib Dems on 4.
On these results Alba is unlikely to have enough support to get a single seat.
This calculation could be subject to big shifts from comparatively small changes to the voting share, however.
https://news.sky.com/story/scottish-elections-sturgeons-snp-set-for-majority-but-salmonds-alba-unlikely-to-get-single-seat-sky-news-poll-12268966
A follow-on tweet illustrates how sensitive all these polling results are to methodology:
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@OpiniumResearch
Caveat: Unlike in our previous poll, we have not prompted for the Green Party in the constituency question, given they are standing so few candidates. This will explain part of the increase in support for the SNP.
Yesterday's main excitement (which maybe shows how turgid this lockdown election's been so far) came from a BBC Scotland Nine news magazine interview with George Galloway where the interviewer tried to question him about the startling inconsistency/hypocrisy in his attitude to working with the Tories:
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@indy_swim
George Galloway getting VERY ANGRY in this car crash interview on the Nine tonight 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 (1)
[Twitter video]
@indy_swim
George Galloway getting VERY ANGRY in this car crash interview on the Nine tonight 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 (2)
[Twitter video]
Emrys
(7,949 posts)not widely beyond the usual margins of error, but as I've pointed out before, the D'Hondt system, with its added uncertainty of how regional list votes play out, makes elections particularly hard to predict, and a percentage point or two either way can lead to vastly different outcomes.
All that said, here's the latest poll by YouGov for The Times which may prove prescient or (more likely as I see things at the moment) an outlier:
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The YouGov research for the Times forecasts a four-seat majority for Nicola Sturgeons party.
The pro-independence Greens, meanwhile, are on track to more than double their return, with 13 MSPs. That would put them just four seats behind Labour, who are predicted to lose out to the Tories in the battle for second place.
Polling expert Professor Sir John Curtice used the survey results to draw up seat predictions for Thursday's vote.
According to his analysis, the SNP would win 68 seats, while Conservatives win 26, five fewer than in 2016.
Labour would win 17, down seven, the LibDems four, down one, and Alex Salmonds Alba Party would return one MSP.
https://archive.is/BK2ZY#selection-1515.3-1523.36
Other polls have made the election much more of a squeaker for the SNP, varying between just missing an overall majority (in practice almost certain to be topped up by the Greens to form the next government), and a bare one- or two-seat majority.
The Alba Party have varied between 2 and 6% of the nationwide vote. Cagey predictions on that basis (they're only running as a regional list party, so it's the percentage in an individual region that would matter) have veered between no seats at all and maybe 4 or so. Curtice has (perhaps overgenerously, but he's the seasoned pro) awarded them 1 seat with 3% of the vote
LeftishBrit
(41,305 posts)Oxford City Council is Labour controlled, with some LibDems and Greens; no Tories. The two councillors from my ward are Labour. I suppose the most controversial issues at the moment (not strictly party political) are building as always, and whether and where there should be 'low traffic neighbourhoods'.
The County Council is No Overall Control, with the Tories as the largest party. The councillor from my ward is LibDem.
Our Police Commissioner (Thames Valley) is Anthony Stansfield, a Tory. There was a formal complaint about him, with regard to this rather bizarre episode:
https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18049792.pcc-anthony-stansfeld-used-work-email-warn-man-computer-hard-drives/
But he will almost certainly be re-elected.
LeftishBrit
(41,305 posts)But I'm sure the next Police Commissioner will also be a Tory!
T_i_B
(14,800 posts)I was actually surprised that they won it so handily given their current decline in South Yorkshire and how hard the Tories campaigned for that election.
I've come across the woman who's been elected Police & Crime Commissioner in Derbyshire for the Tories quite a bit. Hard working, but very partisan and dishonest.
In other news, be glad you don't live in Nottinghamshire!
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LeftishBrit
(41,305 posts)and they had to go to second preferences.
Emrys
(7,949 posts)Our village hall was as busy as I've seen it in any election, and the teller we spoke to said it had been bustling all day. The list ballot has 19 candidates on it, and was so long they were worried they were going to have to stuff it down hard toward the end of the day as it was already quite a tight fit.
The Highlands had snowfall and an overnight "blizzard" over Inverness, so I don't know how that will affect turnout there.
LeftishBrit
(41,305 posts)Seemed as busy, not more, not less, than at other local elections; but not easy to tell because of social distancing rules.
I had received plenty of leaflets from Labour and to some extent the LibDems; not a dicky-bird from the Tories, who probably thought it was a waste of time to campaign here.
T_i_B
(14,800 posts)I had 4 separate ballot papers, which is a record for me. One for City Council, one for Parish Council, one for Police and Crime Commissioner and one for a local referendum on how Sheffield Council is run. I don't envy the people who have to sort them though as they all went into one ballot box.
Don't like voting with glasses steamed up from mask wearing though.
LeftishBrit
(41,305 posts)Yes, that was my polling station; though as I voted at lunchtime, I didn't experience a car boot vote!
I had 3 ballot papers, one for City Council, one for County Council and one for Police and Crime Commissioner. Yes, they all went in one ballot box.
I see (or rather, sometimes don't see!) what you mean about glasses and masks; though it wasn't too bad today. The polling station was quite well-organized from a Covid point of view: one-way system, strict social distancing, hand sanitizer, etc.
T_i_B
(14,800 posts)Whilst it is clear that the media gobshites prattling on about this don't understand the first thing about places like Hartlepool, there is no getting away from this being a disastrous result for Labour.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57019456
Hartlepool has a Conservative MP for the first time since the constituency's creation nearly 40 years ago, after Jill Mortimer won a by-election. Ms Mortimer beat her closest rival, Labour's Paul Williams by 6,940 votes.
The result is a blow for Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer in his first election test since taking over the party.
But the Conservatives will see it is a sign they are building on their gains in traditional Labour heartlands at the 2019 general election.
Sir Keir had been warning his party had a "mountain to climb" to hang on to Hartlepool, but allies of his predecessor as leader Jeremy Corbyn are calling on him to change direction.
T_i_B
(14,800 posts)Labour lost seats on the local council to Liberal Democrats, Greens and Conservatives. Including the council leader losing his seat to the Greens.
The smart money is now on Labour going into a coalition with the Greens. If (as expected) people vote for a change to a committee system on the local council it will at least make for a less high handed council.
Much as was the case in the 2019 local elections, the general trend is towards "anyone but Labour".
LeftishBrit
(41,305 posts)Still overwhelmingly Labour, though Labour lost a seat to the Greens.
We now have 34 Labour councillors, 9 LibDems, 3 Greens and 2 Independent. Still no Tories, yay!
The County Council and Police and Crime Commissioner results are not yet known.