United Kingdom
Related: About this forumEM Forster said it best...
Could there be a better quote to describe the rottenness at the heart of the 'ruling' class? Fat, a bit stupid and heartless - could almost be describing the PM!?!?!. Heh. Oh my. 👀 (For Americans - Public Schools in the UK are fee paying schools. State Schools are what in America you would call Public Schools)
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)too many people wind up becoming "just another brick in the wall"* no matter the country.
* to Pink Floyd
muriel_volestrangler
(102,502 posts)I remember the feeling of desolate homesickness: abruptly, several times a year, our attachments to home and family were broken. We lost everything parents, pets, toys, younger siblings and we could cry if we liked but no one would help us. So that later in life, when we saw other people cry, we felt no great need to go to their aid. The sad and the weak were wrong to show their distress, and we learned to despise the children who blubbed for their mummies. The cure was to stop crying and forget that life beyond the dormitories and classrooms existed. Concentrate instead on the games pitches and the dining hall and the headmasters study. By force of will we made ourselves complicit in a collective narrowing of vision.
In Richard Dentons BBC documentary Public School, filmed at Radley College in 1979, the Radley headmaster Dennis Silk tells a daunted audience of new boys that theyre about to pick up the right habits for life. Among these habits was cultivation of the stiff upper lip. We could be ourselves homesick, vulnerable, lovelorn and frightened or, with practice at putting up a front, we could pretend to embody the idealised national character. We could perform being loyal and robust and self-reliant. Wearing a commendably brave face we could distance our feelings, growing the hardness of heart of the educated, as identified by Mahatma Gandhi from his dealings with the English ruling class.
This wasnt healthy. In her 2015 book, Boarding School Syndrome, psychoanalyst Joy Schaverien describes a condition now sufficiently recognised to merit therapy groups and an emergent academic literature. The symptoms are wide-ranging but include, ingrained from an early age, emotional detachment and dissociation, cynicism, exceptionalism, defensive arrogance, offensive arrogance, cliquism, compartmentalisation, guilt, grief, denial, strategic emotional misdirection and stiff-lipped stoicism. Fine fine fine. Were all doing fine.
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In the early 80s, Radleys non-teaching staff were known as College Servants. We had cleaners, chefs, groundsmen, bit-part players and comic mechanicals. They represented the proles, the plebs, the oiks, the yokels, the townies and the crusties (a term Johnson continued to use 40 years later). Our special language had its range of words to set these unfamiliar animals apart, meaning people not like us, and if you didnt know the language you were probably one of them. As Orwell doubles-down in Nineteen Eighty-Four: The proles are not human beings.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/aug/08/public-schoolboys-boris-johnson-sad-little-boys-richard-beard
He also talks of the racism and cruel targets of jokes that were part of private schools then, but the 70s and 80s weren't exactly an enlightened time in state schools either, so I think that would need proper study to see if fee-paying schools were significantly worse than state ones in that respect.
jmbar2
(6,111 posts)"Public School" in UK refers to the upper crust boarding schools of the elite, right? The equivalent of 'private schools" in the US?
muriel_volestrangler
(102,502 posts)The long-established, usually boarding, fee-paying schools for those up to 18. Called "public schools" before there was general provision of education by the state; "public" in the sense of "communal, and open to anyone who can pay" (rather than being privately tutored in one's own mansion), like a "public house" allows anyone to come in and buy drinks to consume there.
Just to confuse things more, "prep school" in the UK would mean a school that "prepares" a pupil for going to a "public school" - normally prep school up to age 13, and then public school to 18.
jmbar2
(6,111 posts)It sounds very complicated to British and upper class, or aspiring toward upper class status. Sounds dreadful to actually get there.
BTW, I've always loved your pen name - LOL.