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Panich52

(5,829 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 08:48 PM Feb 2015

Gerrymandering beats actual votes

In a counter to the oft repeated line that “demography is destiny,” National Journal argues the competitive edge Democrats expected to gain from increasing racial diversity may have been effectively counterbalanced by pro-Republican redistricting.
 
http://www.brennancenter.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=78133&qid=3722857

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Since Democrats collected more votes than Republicans in EACH of the last THREE elections yet GOP won the seats, my comment on the argument is: 'DUH!'

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Gerrymandering beats actual votes (Original Post) Panich52 Feb 2015 OP
Been screaming about this for years. Wellstone ruled Feb 2015 #1
I don't think it's possible to overemphasize the importance of gerrymandering in recent Republican Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2015 #2
I think you're wrong about 2014 vote totals. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #3
While back I had links to back up 2014 figs but damned if I can find them now. :) Panich52 Feb 2015 #4
My experience, too. :( Jim Lane Feb 2015 #5
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Been screaming about this for years.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:08 PM
Feb 2015

This is why Hillary is going to tailor her campaign to winning the Middle Class Votes. And nothing short of that will do. She has to capture the thirteen big states and in there lies the hard work.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,026 posts)
2. I don't think it's possible to overemphasize the importance of gerrymandering in recent Republican
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:46 PM
Feb 2015

victories. I know "both sides do it," but, as with most things, the Teabagger-dominated Republican party has taken it to the extreme. This and voter suppression have made election results express the will of a RW minority.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
3. I think you're wrong about 2014 vote totals.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:58 PM
Feb 2015

You write, "Democrats collected more votes than Republicans in EACH of the last THREE elections...."

You're right that, in the 2012 House elections, Democratic candidates collected more votes but Republican candidates won more seats. In 2014, however, my recollection is that Republican candidates collected more votes (although their preponderance in the new House was greater than would have been the case without gerrymandering).

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
5. My experience, too. :(
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 02:39 PM
Feb 2015

Before posting I made a quick search and couldn't find the numbers. (I didn't have time to give the research the full-court press.) That's why I was guarded in my wording.

It doesn't matter too much -- we both agree that gerrymandering boosts the Republicans and that, in 2012, it turned a minority (of votes) into a majority (of seats). Those are the important points.

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