Any opinion on Express vote voting machines

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[Wilms]

1. It's touchscreen.

What could possibly go wrong?

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2. Yeah I know, I used one today... two part system, one prints the other tabulates

I like the fact the it prints out the ballot as it were for you to check your results. I'd guess the substrate consumable is proprietary.


Its the tabulator... that strikes me as the funky vulnerable part at least you can hand count the results on the flavor I voted it on.

The ladies were touting it at the precinct like it was their new convertible.

[Wilms]

3. Are there ADEQUATE audits?

If there's a good audit, not just any audit, you can achieve pretty high confidence.

But most of the "audits" I've read about do not do that well, except where there is a wide margin.

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4. Don't know... I'll find out it is a progressive lttle town though.

Ill find out and if not see what I can do.

[Wilms]

5. Generally it is a state issue.

Localities can beyond state law, of course. In Columbia County, NY (bless their hearts) the ENTIRE election is hand-counted. In the process, they satisfy the flimsy state law.

[SaveTheMackerel]

6. I don't trust the vote counters.

They expect us to believe that handing off our ballots to a private company will make things more accurate? That just means they get to pick who wins. I'm sure no one will bribe that company, and that the owner is not political (sarcasm).

The only correct way to do it is to let each candidate count the votes in series with their own scanners. That or have hand counters count each stack by 3 different people who don't know each other, to see if they get the same numbers.

Shall we put this to a vote? If it fails to pass, we know why. What can we do about that? Demand to count them before they leave the precinct so they can't swap them out?