Respect, nothing more. Just a simple show of respect

[sheshe2]

You don't have to like all of his policies. They are not perfect.

Yet step back for a moment, I know frustration runs high when we can't complete the simplest of legislation. Passing minimum wage, extending unemployment benefits even the most basic gun control is impossible. And more so much more. So let's be honest here, it's not the Presidents fault. It's the do nothing congress and a GOP party that has vowed to make this President fail. I fail to understand the daily outrage here about Obama, yet no one rails at the GOP and baggers.

For those that believe Obama owns a magic wand and can do anything, well you must remember what you learned in civics class so many years ago. There are 3 branches of government and this President is not the one who makes the laws. Remember studying that? The congress makes the laws.

On DU this President has been called worse than Bush. He has been called a POS. He has been called every name under the rainbow. No holds barred. He is not having his feet held to the fire. He is in flames here.

All I ask is an ounce of respect for our Democratically elected President. Our first elected African American President. I ask for the respect of his office. We are Democrats.



********************Sadly, I have to state that this is posted In The Barack Obama Group. I am not sad about my President, I am sad that on DU that the flame wars will descend for what I have posted. However this is a protected group, please respect that.******************************

[tblue37]

1. KnR. nt

[Leme]

2. When his pants are on fire

and he takes them off.. I can see he has no clothes. I won't say he is beautifully dressed for that occasion.

[sheshe2]

3. Hey Leme...

Not sure where you are going with that statement. Yet you did see what I posted at the bottom of the Op.

This is the Barack Obama Group. We are not a forum. We are a group. You know the rules, correct? Please abide by them.

Thank you for your consideration of this groups rules.

[Leme]

5. ahh, I see now

I also now understand what BOG is here on DU.
sort of sorry, sort of not
not sure what the group rules are, but will look next time before I post

not sure if I like "closed" discussion if that is what is here

but you are quite welcome to have them. ( your gain and loss? ) : )

[sheshe2]

6. Actually it is GD's loss...

Not that we are quiet in GD. We are quite vocal, trust me on that. I posted Obama's accomplishments last night, wow. The bashers and slashers descended in a group. Never read the article just slashed away. They slashed Obama and they slashed me for posting. No real facts. Just hate.

You know what I find sad? That on DU we need a protected group where we can come together to actually appreciate what this President has accomplished. This a Democratically elected President that is vilified on DU.

So yes, we do need our time and place to rest and laugh and share. A safe haven for when we need it, that is our gain.

Then we are in GD fighting for our lives at DU, sadly some days I believe I have taken a wrong turn and ended up in Freeperville.

Thank you for your consideration for our group, Leme.

[Leme]

7. staying on topic is hard for some people at times

Example in thread a couple days ago:
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Some person (a despised person) was quoted as having said something that I found to be "truthful enough"
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most of the thread was spent yelling about the despised person and not whether what he said had any validity
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a "protected" area at times is needed to have some sort of reasonable discussion without having it hijacked.
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the danger is that it becomes insulated, not that I am saying this is, or is not
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I have no problem saying, "I don't know". : )

[sheshe2]

8. Trust me on this we are not insulated.

the danger is that it becomes insulated, not that I am saying this is, or is not

We are acutely aware of what is happening here. We are aware of the hostility that is directed at the Presidents supporters. The BOG is ridiculed in GD. I know their low opinion of us.

However the best facts come from us in GD. We focus on all the issues. We post about women, LGBT, AA and every issue under the sun. We are not deaf dumb or blind. Yet the hair on fire group has opinions, not facts. They spin and spin and then when it is done they have been proven wrong, time and again. The Presidents perceived failings are all they ever post about.

It is not just members of BOG, any supporter of this President is called a BOG member. That is not true. They love to label us. That is their short coming.

[IrishAyes]

25. Thankfully we neither require nor desire your permission to run the group as WE see fit.

Face it, you don't have the right to invade anyone's living room and crap on the floor. Your claims of accidental stumbling don't hold an ounce of water. SheShe may just ask you politely (at first) to wipe your feet at the door, but I have no such genteel approach. I'll happily tell you and any other person who acts like a barbarian in here to shut up and get the hell out. After all, that's the only approach you'll understand.

BTW, my patience is shorter than I am.

[Leme]

33. sheshe2 has a better grasp of things

and we had a discussion.

Your post was a personal attack. An attack based on accusing me of not stumbling upon this thread. An unfair and untrue accusation.

I have been here about a week and your comment has been the most uncivil I have recieved.

If one refreshes "Last Replied" and does not notice what forum.... errors can be made, and are.

I would never have thought Barack Obama (Group) would be a place where discussion of errors or faults of the President would not be allowed.

After I posted that I would read the criteria for this group, I did so.

I certainly understand what sheshe 2 said in her post above this one.

"We are acutely aware of what is happening here. We are aware of the hostility that is directed at the Presidents supporters. The BOG is ridiculed in GD. I know their low opinion of us. "

Your statement lowered my opinion, and now I would not recommend anyone to post here. Unless they want Republicans elected.

[IrishAyes]

34. You really know how to pour oil on troubled waters, don't you?

I don't buy false-sounding pseudo apologies, and I'll not be intimidated by accusations of incivility when I don't, thank you very much.

[blm]

36. Not buying ANY of this act from what I've seen here and on other threads.

The pot-stirring borders on the absurd.

[IrishAyes]

37. I've been absorbed in other matters, but it looks as if I need to return to my former practice of

daily reading of all BOG posts. Just to keep some of the stray trolls in check. Turn away for a second and all hell can break loose. I'm not an admin and don't wish to be, but I should at least kinda keep an eye on the front gate for them. They're very good to respond when notified. Farrrr better than relying on the jury system! Besides, I don't think outsiders have any business adjudicating in our own forum, especially since so many of them are such Obama haters I don't know why DU puts up with them. They sound more like Rush and Beck than any kind of actual Democrat.

[blm]

46. RandPaul2016 have been rearing their ugly heads all over GD.

Really....check them out. Some of them are a real hoot. Lemme go find one for you. ; )

[IrishAyes]

48. Thank you, but please spare me... I'm just a little old lady, remember? Only so much my heart

can survive. Anyway, I can smell them a mile off - got a clothespin on my nose right now. Some would say it improves my looks.

[blm]

49. LOL - I knew you knew

; )

but...here....just Lemme try.....


just kidding.

[IrishAyes]

51. You're trying to give me nightmares!

[blm]

50. And....you do. RandPaul2016, right, Leme?

.

[sheshe2]

4. And

[freshwest]

38. Sorry I missed this one. Love this one, but they could have added Lincoln. It's the same situation.

[sheshe2]

42. Hey freshwest!

Best President ever.....



Lincoln was indeed up there too and did his best to do the right thing.

[hopemountain]

40. very true and very nice. thanks, sheshe2

[sheshe2]

41. you are so welcome hopemountain!

[sheshe2]

9. Kick!

[Iliyah]

10. K & R

[AngryDem001]

11. Our first elected African American President.

That is one of the BIGGEST reasons that the pukes have blocked Barack Obama at EVERY turn. They can't fucking STAND that there is a black man in the WH. Hell, it was the reason that the braindead teabagger zombies crawled out of the sewage.

Hey! REPUBLICANS! FUCK YOU!!

[sheshe2]

12. I do believe that I have to give you a big welcome to DU and the BOG.

Thank you AngryDem.

[AngryDem001]

15. Glad to be here! :)

It just goes to show how mind-blowingly STUPID the GOP is.

It's infuriating beyond description. The GOP has GOT TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!

[sheshe2]

16. I could not agree with you more.

AngryDem001

[treestar]

18. True and no real liberal

would put irrational criticism above that. Not if they really wanted any progress at all. Some people just hate authority so much that they can't stand anyone with any. It's good to question authority, but some of these people in the opposite direction can't deal with any - they want to do what they want and they want others to be there to do things they want only. They are potential mini-dictators and think the Presidency should be a servant of theirs to be dictator on their behalf.

[IrishAyes]

27. Amen to that. No quarter.

[MADem]

52. And to drive the point home, our first RE-friken-ELECTED African American President.

Heh, heh, heh.

It infuriates them.

Too damn bad!

[Voice for Peace]

13. I'm not a member of the BOG but this post popped up and

it's great and I agree completely, thank you.

[sheshe2]

14. Thank you ...

Voice for Peace.

[Cha]

17. Only RESPECT.. That's what the President gives to others no matter what their position..

thanks, she~

[sheshe2]

20. My pleasure Cha~

And you are so right.

[Progressive dog]

19. He has earned my respect

by what he has accomplished as President. He has earned my respect by what he has tried to accomplish as President. He has earned my respect by the way he conducts himself as President of the USA.

[IrishAyes]

28. Don't forget how he conducts himself as a person.

[CherokeeDem]

21. What amazes me sheshe2...

...is the fact that these people who choose to belittle this president never seem to take into consideration exactly what would be happening to them if McCain or Romney had been elected.

Apparently they do not understand that we can like and admire the man and still not agree with him on every decision that he makes. I'm tired of those of us who like President Obama treated like groupies who have no mind of our own. I am not a fangirl. I am a functioning, intelligent adult who understands the issues this man is up against and how sometimes he's going to do things he feels are right whether we agree or not.

I hate to speculate on the reasons these people continue to behave this way but I think we all know what the core issue is when it come to Barack Obama.

I'd just like to remind them... if McCain had won... Sarah Pallin would be a heartbeat away from the presidency. How they possibly feel this way about Obama?

[IrishAyes]

29. Hell, if McCain had won, the Witch From Wassila would probably have drawn a bead on him already.

[blm]

47. That's because half of them are here to condition Dems into accepting Rand Paul as an alternative

to voting for Democrats.

It's pretty blatant to me.

[freshwest]

55. Condition is right. Some of us are not that gullible.

[Whisp]

22. A very respectable person, and I don't use those words easily for politicians.

Obama is like a Gandhi, that eats.

[steve2470]

23. k&r nt

[Thinkingabout]

24. I wish we could be having a discussion about the freat success of the vision he ran on and

the accomplishments made with the help of a smart Congress. From the most accomplished Congress enjoyed by LBJ to the least accomplished Congress presently. President Obama still has vision and I stand behind him.

[bravenak]

26. Much respect.

Thank you for saying this.

[sheshe2]

31. My pleasure bravenak.

[shenmue]

30. I like him

And I'm not ashamed about that.

[sheshe2]

32. Thanks shenmue.

Me either!

[lostincalifornia]

35. You are right

[TBF]

39. Happy to stop by and rec this sheshe -

you put up a lot of great OPs.

I'm not crazy about many politicians in this country but I went out and campaigned for this guy. And you are correct about the environment he is trying to function in. I have never seen Washington DC or the remainder of this country for that matter so split. It took me awhile to realize the racist underpinnings. And I can certainly understand your frustration.

He's not perfect but he's not bad for a capitalist.

[politicasista]

43. Kick

Haven't been around in a while, but your post is enlightening.

Been unhappy with the intentional gridlock/obstruction, but he is trying. Civility in agreeing to disagree seems to be a thing of the past.





edit to delete frown

[sheshe2]

44. Thank you politicasista.

I agree, he has done his best in a world of obstruction.

[politicasista]

45. No problem.

Yes he has.

[Coolest Ranger]

53. I haven't been around in a while either but

I knew from the moment I saw the title that a couple of the sheep would descend and try to act like they don't know all the rules. That same poster you had a conversation with earlier has been all over DU in the last week spewing his anti-Obama BS but then act like they are innocent when calling them out.

Democratic Underground isn't as democratic like it was back in the day when I first joined. I missed the days when I could log on, post something and get mad comments from fellow democratic underground members. I miss the days when I could log on and know for a fact that I could talk to fellow democrats and know right away where they stand.

I miss the days where I could log on and see a few trolls try to disrupt things here and the admins give them a big fat boot to the ass showing them the door. I don't recognize the place any more. I don't.

Democratic Underground is slowly transforming into Libertarian Underground. A friend of mine over at the People's View and I love those guys over there gave me the 411 on what's going on over here. Libertarians are slowly trying to drown out our voices by posting all kind of bull shit articles about their god Edward Snowden and Glenn Greeenwald. I see it every day when I check to see what's going on.

Make no mistake, just because I'm not on and active as I used to be doesn't mean I'm not keeping an eye on my favorite group. I love seeing the articles that my homegirl sheshe is posting and I love seeing my Girl Cha kicking ass. I also enjoy watching Freshwest kick ass on occasion and if I miss any more I apologize I single those 3 out because that's who I have had the most contact with.

So keep doing what you are doing guys. Don't let these anti-Obama haters flood our group. Bounce them when you find them and keep on sailing.

[sheshe2]

54. Hey Coolest Ranger~

Just got home from work and saw your response! So good to see you!

We don't post here as much as we use too, we have taken our support of this President to GD. Sure we get bashed a bit, yet there are strong voices there too.

I haven't forgotten the BOG though. I love the Boggers and anyone that speaks up with praise when he has accomplished something that helps the American people. Obamacare, VAWA, DADT, DOMA, his measured response to Syria, so many more. His latest, he brought our soldier home, he was not left behind.

Our support is not unconditional as many say to us. He is just a man. Yet in the face of all the hate and vitriol that has been thrown his way he keeps moving forward, steady and determined he keeps looking ahead and moving us forward.

So very good to talk to you again!

[freshwest]

58. Have a good night, She she! And thanks for all the support!

[sheshe2]

59. Good morning freshwest!

Back at you~

[Cha]

56. Hey Coolest Ranger! Long time.. how you been?!

to sheshe for letting me know you posted in the BOG.. our sweet sweet BOG.

Miss you but the last I read you were going to be really busy in real life and Good for you!

We really do have a lot of great supporters here for President Obama and good people to hang out with on this political board. Getting out the facts to counteract rw and libertarian bullshit. We're Lucky!

Take good care of yourself, CR buddy

[freshwest]

57. You have it down. And thanks for adding me to the list. That means a lot coming from you.

[PowerToThePeople]

60. Respect.

I do not agree with everything he has done, in fact there are many things he has done that I am steadfastly against with all my heart and soul.

BUT...

He is a strong man. He has lots of obstacles before him in trying to accomplish any progressive ideas. He has not had an easy time. He has done good things, things that make people's lives better.