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EVDebs

(11,578 posts)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 06:16 PM Sep 2012

Paul Ryan, Ayn Rand, and Anton LaVey

This video clip with Chuck Colson's commentary should go viral IMHO



I know plenty of conservative evangelicals and they are unaware of this. Chuck Colson is spot on in this video BTW
We need a huge voter turnout and a backlash to this kind of ideology could do the trick.
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Paul Ryan, Ayn Rand, and Anton LaVey (Original Post) EVDebs Sep 2012 OP
Definitely... Should be stressed when talking to them. freshwest Sep 2012 #1
it's starting to sound like the GOP is losing the a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #2
Wow, she looks as crazy as anyone I have ever known. DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #3
Here's the link.. Cha Sep 2012 #4
Bingo! DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #5
Wow, DollarBill, thanks for the history of yours Cha Sep 2012 #6
Oh, it was indeed Paradise. DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #7
That's where I still have to go Cha Sep 2012 #8
Nominated VP think we live in an Ayn Rand world now? Mattias Oct 2012 #9

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
3. Wow, she looks as crazy as anyone I have ever known.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 06:29 PM
Sep 2012

You should post this every day, on as many sites as possible.

I am tech-challenged. Do you have a link for that?

K&R

Cha

(305,173 posts)
4. Here's the link..
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 07:46 PM
Sep 2012

You just left click on "share" at the top of Vid and right click and "copy".

Easy..and I'm not too tech savvy..at all!

Let me know if you got it

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
5. Bingo!
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 08:09 PM
Sep 2012

Thank you! I am sure that my life has been changed in some minute way.

BTW, I checked your 'profile' and saw where you live.

I used to hang out there when the only hotel on the island was the Big Boy.

Also, I used to date one of the Robinson girls and was able to visit Niihau back in the days when they didn't let anyone in. That was the year they wouldn't let Nixon on the island.

I was also along for the ride on the first US warship to enter Nawiliwili Harbor. We took out the entire pier. The entire island's population witnessed it, too.

Thanks,
DBH

Cha

(305,173 posts)
6. Wow, DollarBill, thanks for the history of yours
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 08:21 PM
Sep 2012

on Kaua'i! I house sat for Katherine Robinson in the '90s when I lived here before.

Lots of memories for you.. it must have been so Paradisiacal back then!

I came the first time in 1992 two months before the worst hurricane ever to hit the Island and we all bonded pretty much after that. Rebuilding for 5 years. Then I left for 12 years and when I came back in 2010..things had changed so much! I was always on the Westside and now I've found the Eastside is best for me. Slowly making friends again.

Niihau probably is still like it was when you were there.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
7. Oh, it was indeed Paradise.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 08:41 PM
Sep 2012

I did three tours in The Bad Place - at the northern-most firebase in the country.

My time on your island probably preserved what was left of my sanity.

Is there still that gap on the North Point where the roads don't connect? The rental places would tell us - every time - to not even try to cross it.

We stranded so many cars on those rocks that the rental place cut us off.
DBH

Cha

(305,173 posts)
8. That's where I still have to go
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:00 PM
Sep 2012

and explore. I don't have a car now..and take the bus if I need to get to Lihue. I'm quite self sufficent without one and why I wanted to move to Kapaa. 2ish blocks from bike trail, Library, Juice Bar, Ocean, bank, and I live above a natural food store(which is my thing).

But, I want to take the bus sightseeing to the North Shore one of these days and when I ever get friends and fam over here from New York, we can get to that North Point you're talking about.

My son lives here but he's always working..but, we did go hike the Trail to the Nose of the Sleeping Giant in August on my B-DAy! FUN! I can see the Sleeping Giant from my balcony and know I went to the top of his nose. I read a piece afterwards on it and it said "this section was for experienced climbers"..who knew!


How are you liking the Left Coast? I lived all over San Diego for 15 years from '74 to '90..Good Times!

Mattias

(25 posts)
9. Nominated VP think we live in an Ayn Rand world now?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 06:21 PM
Oct 2012

Firstly having read the majoriy of her writings of which my favourite is "We the Living" I do wonder wh bat book he the potential VP is refering too. Is it Fountainhead where the hero symbolise the idea where science is not up for political rewriting? If that is the case his party has severely deformed the science of economics to there own liking. Instead of as Howard Roarkes the republicans are quoating the Keatings. Deforming and readjusting the science not towards finding objective truths but to confirm subjective wishes.
If the nominated VP is looking towards Atlas Shrugged to find his world view he needs to take international politics 101. Firstly the patent protection is almost globally ratified, China is collaborating finally. So the inventor of "Rearden Steel" will as any other have monopoly producing it for the patents timeframe if he/she so wish. The braindrain in america of today is more a question of immigration rules than anything else. The Brain drainer of first class Bill Gates gave this information to congress not long ago, with current immigration rules Microsoft just cannot reqruit enough people from around the world. If rules do not change Bill Gates stated that if people wont come to them, they will have to move to people. Its hardly a strike of superbrains against the masses in belief they are entitled. Its more of a reality that has to be handled. Paul Ryan supports harder immigration laws, ergo Paul Ryan supports the brain drain. The amount of foregin students attending US Universities are lower then ever, not because they dont want to attend the worlds best educational bodies, but because there not allowed.
Also there is Ayn Rands atheism, she never ever in a single sentance rejected atheism, this is a hard one for Ryan beeing catholic in a mostly christian party.
I must have read another Ayn Rand than Paul Ryan. Because Fountainhead proposes science as science no matter results against ideology, GOP only takes scince that fitts there results.
Atlas Shrugged proposes a world where the makers are stoped my goverment when in this world they are helped.
Objectivism as philosophy is fiercly atheist.
And to conclude it all, Ayn Rand beeing a great writer was not an economist. Tolkien never visitet Middle earth. Rawling never went to Hogwarth. Her books are well written, but as little as I will ever write a fiction book of the same degree Ayn Rand did, Ayn Rand will never be the economist I am. A VP candidate taking fiction before reality is not serious, it is very serious. Should Mitt Romney win and during his term ever loose office for any reason. The new President of the United States will not have Keynes, Stiglitz, Barro, Krugman, Ricardo or even Friedman as base for economic policy. He will have a writer of fiction guiding him in the non-fiction world we inhabit, with potential dire results.

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