Hillary Clinton
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Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Unity is the new enemy!
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)They never had any interest in unity. It's pretty difficult to unify the party when one candidate and many of his supporters are trying to kill it off.
Plus, anarchism tends to abhor unity.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)A-friggin'-men!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)So they prove their moral and intellectual greatness by promoting stories from Breitbart and pimping Judicial Watch.
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)It takes a monumental amount of intentional ignorance to not see Judicial Watch for who they really are. Or Breitbart or FACT or National Review or the Blaze or Fox News or any of the others. "We" used to have a clear picture of their intent. Some of us still do.
Funny how some of them now see Elizabeth Warren and other Democrats and progressives as the sellouts, while they've sold out to Judicial Watch and Fox News.
Cha
(305,447 posts)Grand point. They.. have no business even bringing up.. "sellouts".
brer cat
(26,295 posts)mercuryblues
(15,122 posts)and raise you a kick.
Cha
(305,447 posts)sanders has lost and Elizabeth is going after DT.. the scourge on America... what could be more logical?
geek
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Like most of the leadership of the Democratic Party, she remained above the fray while the voters determined the outcome.
She is in a unique position to bring together a campaign that is hurting for a progressive populist fire!
Only Elizabeth Warren can catch that fire!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Fisticuffs at high noon
DemonGoddess
(5,123 posts)TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)Some of them couldn't be any more obvious.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)They haven't quite figured out that they can't bully him off the site, because he *is* the site.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)The meltdown on Tuesday will be epic.
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)The real test will be when/if Sanders drops out and endorses Hillary, especially if it's soon after June 7th.
For some of them, it's never been about Sanders; it's been about their own egos. Those few will toss him under the bus with everyone else.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)See, e.g., Ted Cruz.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)This last stretch will be brutal no doubt as the truth comes crashing in on the remaining devotees
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Speaking truth to power is a good thing, but they're not speaking truth. And they're willing to give all of our power to the GOP.
Just plain wrong. On all counts.
sarae
(3,284 posts)It's outrageous! What is she trying to do win in November?!
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Then Bernie can take his Socialism and percentage of voters who will never vote for Hillary, and go home.
It looks like we may not really need them.
sarae
(3,284 posts)The other half...like you said...who needs 'em?
BootinUp
(49,041 posts)represent the vast majority of Bernie supporters. The majority will be fine with Hillary as the nominee once the primary has passed.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Everyone now knows that Hillary is the one to beat Trump. Every Liberal, even Sanders' Followers, want to start fighting Trump and they can't while they are stuck propping up Bernie who has already lost.
still_one
(96,583 posts)because she hasn't endorsed Sanders as the Democratic nominee.
This is a pattern of intolerance that has been demonstrated throughout the campaign. When Planned Parenthood, NARAL, Al Franken, John Lewis, Jerry Brown, and anyone or group came out and endorsed Hillary, they were thrown under that proverbial bus.
If they want to know why they are losing, all they need to do is look in the mirror
Walk away
(9,494 posts)justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)they all would be supporting her right now and throwing Sanders under the bus if he showed any kind of support towards the Democratic Party--a party that he obviously abhors but takes their support hand over fist.
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Let's face it, if Elizabeth Warren had run, many of them wouldn't have been able to overcome their misogyny to support her, and especially not when she actually presented her strategies to achieve her plans. She wouldn't be pure enough for them, because those strategies would involve compromise. Only Bernie Sanders, who doesn't have any plans at all on how to achieve what he says he will is pure enough - precisely because he has no plans. They aren't interested in achieving anything - they are interested in being part of the selected elite.
shadowandblossom
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BlueMTexpat
(15,498 posts)WhiteTara
(30,175 posts)to me. Why should I want to read her blog in paste magazine? It's an entertainment magazine. I guess she should stick to writing about music Here's what Wikipedia has to say
Paste is a monthly music and entertainment digital magazine published in the United States by Wolfgang's Vault. Its tagline is "Signs of Life in Music, Film and ...
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)of religious fanatics who impose a strict code of morality on everyone else.
WhiteTara
(30,175 posts)from a made up group on a teevee show? That is rich and stupid. We have definitely gone into never never land.
obamanut2012
(27,813 posts)WhiteTara
(30,175 posts)I don't watch Game Of Thrones.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)of understanding that we live in a society with a representative government, just stunning to see on a political message board. I've been here a long time now, yet it still shocks me.
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)Many of them are political neophytes, no doubt, but the continued insistence in denying even the most basic aspects of reality often seems to be an act.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)have lost the plot, and they should really know better. Makes me sad.
obamanut2012
(27,813 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Off with her head! SMH
realmirage
(2,117 posts)Jane and Bernie have repeatedly said they will, so the endorsement is coming.
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)If everyone else who supports Hillary is a sell-out, it would be hypocritical not to include Sanders when he does the same.
We get to find out how big the bus is.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)realmirage
(2,117 posts)His goal, unless he's a moron, isn't to destroy the Democratic Party, but to change it. If he doesn't endorse Hillary people will say he was never a democrat, was just lying all along, and it makes him less relevant as he'll be seen once again as one of those people in a smaller party like Nader that can never win. I think his strategy now is to leave as much of a mark on the dem party as possible by pulling it further left (except on guns) and this will be his legacy. That's how I think he sees it, and people behind the scenes have been confirming this for the most part.
Now if he is dumb, he'll hit the nuke button by refusing to endorse, split the party and help Republicans win in the process. But considering he realized during Kerry's run the folly of voting for Nader and told people not to vote for Nader, I think he's not dumb and his strategy since NY hasn't been to win, but to impact the party in a lasting way by reminding it to continue moving the center further left. And THAT has been the Hillary argument all along - move further left but in a quieter, effective, but less drastic way (and with a well thought out plan that can actually pass through congress) as that's the only way possible in America. You don't dictate to the millions of righties and centrists. You work with them to get what you want over time. Hell it took 55 years after black people got the right to vote to give women the right. Like it or not, that's America.
Cha
(305,447 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(115,410 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)for Bernie. Unless he's been lying all along, he will end up endorsing Hillary. Grudgingly, maybe but he will endorse and under the bus he goes!
BootinUp
(49,041 posts)in Equilibrium.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)But, she didn't.
She is more to the left than Hillary, but she also believes in getting things done.
MirrorAshes
(1,262 posts)They are going to be very lonely in that pure pristine corner of irrelevancy they've made for themselves.