Got a little bit over the top. (HILLARY GROUP)

[Kath1]

Went to a high school graduation party last Sunday. Catholic girl's high school. Didn't want to go but my significant other insisted because she is friends with the graduate's mother. Asshole starts mouthing off about all of the Hillary scandals, how she covered up for Bill's rapes (never proven, of course) and how she was responsible for the Benghazi deaths. Then he went into how she is into "killing babies" I couldn't take it. I told Mr. know-it-all that I am pro-choice, that I think women can make their own decisions. Then I asked him what real proof he had of any of his accusations. He tried to dismiss me with a wave of his hand saying "You're a big liberal" but I wasn't done. Told him he is brainwashed by too much Fox news and right-wing radio. Told him he is an idiot for supporting a con man like Trump. Told him I voted for Obama twice and would again if I could. I got a little too loud.

Embarrassed? Yes, in a way. My partner thought I went a bit nuclear. I agree. I am still sorting it all out. I just can't take the bullshit any more.

[stopbush]

1. They think that they can spout their crap without challenge.

Then they get offended when they are challenged.

Fuck em. You did good.

[Kath1]

2. Thank you.

I won't be invited there any time soon but that is fine with me.

[Historic NY]

33. Exactly...

[fleabiscuit]

3. Agreed let him pound sand. You're probably going to dream about turning Bruce Lee on his butt too.

[BootinUp]

4. I always turn the conversation to public policy and away from scandal, but you

did right to call them out on RW lies. Truth is, you can't change most people's minds, they get to where its a matter of faith basically. Our political discussion in this country is so screwed. I grew up with 3 network channels of news and PBS and it was so different than now. The truth is that we are probably closer to the way it was before network tv though. Politics is something else. How did we make it this far? lol.

[puffy socks]

5. Yeah probably not such a hot idea at a grad party

Relax though you're a human being. Apologize to the host maybe if you think you really caused a scene but


I wouldn't feel too bad though, he obviously felt free to blab on about it at a party.

Its not like you elbowed him as he was trying to leave the party..... right?

[Kath1]

9. No elbows.

No violence. Everyone knows I'm a peace person. That whole scene - Catholic girl's expensive exclusive school - turns me off to begin with. I was surrounded by christian conservatives and I just lost it.

[puffy socks]

10. Yeah I figured, I was just razzin' ya.

on the elbow thing

[NastyRiffraff]

47. Heh. I know ALL about Catholic girls' schools

Went for four hellish years, following eight years in a Catholic grade school (mixed boys/girls). Somehow I survived and am now an atheist.

Oh, and good for you, Kath, for standing up to that jerk. Killing babies my feminist ass!

[Kath1]

51. Glad you survived that! Must have been hell!

I am a recovering ex-catholic.

Thank you.

I never, never, never should have gone to a Catholic graduation party. That mind-set is what I have been trying to get away from for years.

Yeah, "killing babies." As if they care how many women die.

[SunSeeker]

6. Good for you, Kath1.

Don't be embarrassed. It is that insufferable boor who should be embarrassed for forcing you and everyone around him to listen to his neanderthal views.

Maybe next time he will think twice before subjecting people to his offensive political rants. If more people pushed back like you did, maybe right wing nut jobs would not be so quick to subject people to their depraved ravings.

Liberals are always the ones worrying about people's feelings and not wanting to get political among mixed company, but the right wingers have no problem popping off and making people miserable.

[Kath1]

11. Thank you so much!

I am so sick of sitting there and taking abuse for being a liberal.

And, you know what? I NEVER bring up politics. They do. Sometimes enough is enough.

[Kath1]

18. Thank you.

I have sat around so many family dinners where everyone made political/racial/sexist remarks that were absolutely repugnant to me. and they knew those remarks hurt me.

I was always worried about hurting someone's feelings if I spoke up.

[SunSeeker]

20. Me too. I've sat through countless Thanksgiving dinners, work lunches, grocery lines.

And no matter where it is, right wingers think is appropriate to spew their garbage and that you should be happy to have to hear it. It really is a form of bullying. And I just bit my lip and said nothing. I have had enough, after decades of that shit. I am staying silent no more.

Time to fight back!

[Kath1]

37. Right on.

I kmow I've had enough.

[SharonClark]

34. Couldn't agree more

Assholes need to hear the push back. I usually ask where they heard that information and offer an appropriately snarky response.

This actually happened when I started my new job about 4 years ago. I went to my boss about a NRA flyer that was posted on the bulletin board and he asked if it bothered me. I responded that I was always told not to discuss religion or politics at work, but it didn't bother me, I just wanted to confirm that I could post political messages as well. Need less to say, the NRA flyer was removed pronto.

[SunSeeker]

36. LOL Great job!

[spooky3]

40. Genius!

[spooky3]

38. ITA. Apologize to the host for whatever you think

You are truly sorry for doing, but you did not start the "conversation."

[SunSeeker]

46. Did you mean to reply to me? Looks like your reply was to Kath1...

[spooky3]

48. Sorry--I was agreeing with your good comments,

but should have said my second sentence was directed to the OP.

[sheshe2]

7. Hang in there Kath.

[Kath1]

12. I do, sister!

Always.

[savalez]

8. You gotta do that sometimes.

They are inappropriate morons.

You might feel weird about it now but you'll laugh about it later.

I've been there.

Screw them.

[Kath1]

13. Thank you.

That jerk had already irritated me by mouthing off about Muslims and Hispanics.

I made a vow to myself recently that I won't stay silent when faced with hate. In that sense, I am proud.

[Cha]

14. Awww, Sweetie.. Don't be embarrassed.. You did nothing wrong.. and you're the

one who didn't want to go in first place.. like you had a premonition or something.

Thanks for speaking out.. I thought it was going to be a BS fan.. but it was trump fan.. they're so easy to knock down.



Virgin Islands :

[Kath1]

16. That means a lot. Thank YOU for thanking me!

Speaking out is not my style. I could have sat there and said nothing and tacitly agreed with the BS or spoken up. I spoke up, for once.

No, I did not want to go there to begin with.

Significant other, initially pissed off about it, thanked me tonight. "Yeah, we won't be invited back there but who gives a f**k." She didn't like the crowd, either.

[Cha]

19. I understand.. you were in a different situation, though.. like an enclosed area and you

chose to speak out.. and for someone who doesn't do confrontation it meant even more.

And guess what.. you're the winner.. Truth over faux.. Please!

Hillary is going to be Madam POTUS and that guy and all the other ones can suck on with faux "news" for 8 years.

Awesome your SO thanked you tonight!

[SunSeeker]

21. Love that graphic. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed what a sweaty mess Trump was.

Dude looked like he was roasting in hell. Because he was.

[Cha]

22. "Roasting in hell".. perfect because, yeah..

he was!

[Her Sister]

29. Cha when was that Trump event? answering questions?

Was this recent?

[Cha]

31. Sorry, no idea.. it's a graphic that BNR made that I borrowed from Boot.

[DURHAM D]

15. I spent more than 4 hours on the phone today

talking with friends on both coasts that I have not talked to on the phone in over a year for one couple and three years for the other. One couple is in California and the other couple in Virginia. All four of the women are in their late 40s - early 50s.

Until this campaign they did not even self identify as feminists. Now they are radical feminists who see everything they managed to ignore before.

Both couples wanted to tell me about recent dust-ups at social events where they just had to let it all out. They were a little embarrassed that they have changed the dynamics in their social circles but the reason they called me was to brag about how they woke up, how they stepped up, and that they are not going to take it anymore. I loved it and they all said we fully understand your world view for the first time.

I loved it. They just wanted Mama to know that they finally heard/saw the clanging bells. I warned them they could never turn it off again.

[Kath1]

17. That is excellent.

They feel as I do. Time for all of us old ladies to identify as feminists.

[gwheezie]

23. I would have done the same.

Seriously, I'm not going to start it at a social function but if some asshole wants to start it, I'll be happy to finish it. I figure as an old white lady, my silence is acceptance and people need to know they just can't spout off because they assume we all agree.

[Kath1]

39. That's what I think.

Silencw is acceptance and I do not want to be associated with it, especially when I disagree with it vehemently.

[Walk away]

24. What you need is a couple of funny and scathing Trump jokes to tell in situations like this.

That's what Hillary did. Tasteful, truthful Trump quotes that are funny and crazy. Next time try some research first. The point is to get everyone laughing at Trump for being insane.

That's my plan. Keep up with the Trumpisms and learn to mock him in public!!!

[Kath1]

41. Thank you.

I'll be prepared!

[BobbyDrake]

25. Remember, trying to control our responses is how they marginalize us.

It's awesome that you stood up for what you believe. Why should we have to sit back and put up with outrageous lies being tossed about, just to avoid hurting other people's feelings? Are they offering us the same respect? No!

Well done, Kath1!

[beachbum bob]

26. time for us to quit taking the bullcrap for sure

we don't need to play nice any more....standing up for the truth against zealots not an easy road......but we can no longer be silient. Call them out


good job

[Kath1]

42. Thanks, Bob!

I agree.

[sarae]

27. You shouldn't be embarrassed.

Even if you didn't change this idiot's mind, I'm glad you spoke up, if only to dent the narrative that "no one likes Hillary." People like that asshole depend on intimidation to silence us; I think they feel especially entitled to do this when they're arguing with women. Every time you argue back, it's one more voice chipping away at the myth that no one likes her. Thank you for doing that!

[Kath1]

43. I didn't throw any F bombs or anything like that.

But my temper was pretty hot. The more I think about it, the more I think it was the right thing.

[Loki]

28. I don't take that shit anymore either Kath1.

My husband just stands back and smiles.

[Kath1]

44. Thank you.

And your husband sounds like I really cool guy. Glad he can smile with it!

[Her Sister]

30. Also our speaking out helps those that are quiet not fear speaking out

Let's them know there are many of us! We're not alone! Like that Brooklyn neighborhood who had no idea that their neighborhood was mostly for HRC till after the votes where counted! If they had known they wouldn't have "hidden" their support for HRC!

[Kath1]

45. Right on.

I heard about that from my Brooklyn aunt!

[BlueMTexpat]

32. You did just fine, IMO.

If someone (usually an A**H***) is going to begin spouting RW lies, they should not be surprised when someone calls their bluff.

It sounds like the A**H*** started it. It's good to let such A**H***s know that their opinions will not go unchallenged.

[Kath1]

49. I'm just not into confrontation.

But I really, for once, could not take it. He seemed genuinely shocked that someone spoke up. I didn't throw any F bombs, thank god. I'm just sorry it took place at a social event. Not a huge drama scene but it sort of threw a turd in the punch bowl for my partner.

She's cool with it though. Now she says she glad I spoke up in a soft spoken way because she was about to go off, F bombs and all, after idiot said Hillary is a "lesbo."

I try to be polite in social situations and NEVER bring up politics unless I'm with a like-minded person or someone else brings it up. Just sick of the rudeness.

[BlueMTexpat]

52. Some are so used to pontificating as if their

their opinions are the only ones that count. It's good that you spoke up and showed that others do not always agree with them.

The a**h*** was the one who was out of line first for raising the subject and repeating the usual crap about Hill. Had you not responded, you might even have felt worse.

[SharonClark]

35. Maybe you should have worn a big cross and clutched it while saying

God thinks you're an asshole.

[Kath1]

50. That is hilarious, Sharon.

My 85 year old aunt told me basically the same thing today!

[Coolest Ranger]

53. Some people

make you go a little nuts. I'm glad you had the courage to confront that douche