Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumThe White Entitlement of Some Sanders Supporters
As read on The Daily Beast:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/05/the-white-entitlement-of-some-sanders-supporters.html
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The more I reflected on them, the more I realized the key point: They felt entitled to win, and a defeat meant that someone must have cheated or that their opinions did not matter, which of course couldnt be true. They preferred to suspend reality and fabricate injustices rather than concede that Sanders has lost fair and square.
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These guys could not understand this struggle. They wanted immediate success and gratification, and they were not used to things not going their way. The issues and the lives of others had become irrelevant. All they wanted was for me to agree that they had been unjustly cheated, and that Killary and the DNC had rigged everything against them. I could not agree, so I had to walk away.
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A beguiling component of Sanderss campaign is how the unintentional white tribalism that has been forged on shared economic hardships has boosted his campaign, while at the same time rendering him unappealing to the minorities he needed to win the nomination.
My brother and I are 3 years apart in age, roughly. I'm a Clinton supporter, along with the rest of most of my family. The difference between us? I'm a middle child, and he is "the baby." As in, "got everything he ever wanted," and "was never responsible for chores the way the rest of us were," and "basically lived an unrealistic lifestyle before having to make his way in the world." My parents bought my brother a new Honda Accord after he went to a trade school on scholarship, because that was the money they'd saved for him for college, but when he got a job with a union shop where "foreign" cars weren't allowed in the parking lot, he sold a well-built, fuel-efficient vehicle for pennies, all so he could buy a gas-guzzling American truck. Just to fit in among a mindless union shop. And that's the kind of thinking that brought him to Bernie Sanders, I guess. (This isn't a dig against unions, just against the brainless groupthink that can govern them most of the time.)
Sanders and Trump truly are two sides of the same coin, and that coin IS white entitlement, no doubt about it.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)with adult voters...those of us over 45....I see the same attitude with sanders supporters I see in several reddit forums like the personal fiance where they don't feel accountable for the mess they have made with college debt, personal debt...etc....that they are :the victim" and not the one who is responsible....sanders message is hey..."we are the victims" and its not our individual fault that we mess up....almost echos the huge push of the "self-esteem" bullcrap....where we have those that don't like to have nether winners or loser becasues it bad to inflict self-esteem issues on our kids
of course this make the kids pretty useless in real the world and thats what so much of today in sanders, his message and his followers
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)I think Sanders draws his support from older former hippies and younger people who clearly want to be the next generation of hippies. The language they use sometimes, much of it seems to be about a system built on romantic or idealized ideas that just don't exist in the real world (outside some fiction novels, that is). It is very much like a religious movement, not just a political one.
When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movements become headlong - faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thoughts of obstacles and forget the precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late. ~Frank Herbert, Dune
Cha
(305,447 posts)he still lost. I think that is just one of many egregious missteps.. why.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Cha
(305,447 posts)and a sea change takes place.
This wasn't cool @ all what did.. and I do believe in Karma. I think he wants to make sure that Hillary's midterm elections make it hard for her to get anything done.
It's our job to GOTV in spite of what he's done.
He'll keep having rallies even when he's in the Senate.. he won't be denied.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)And how are they going to explain why money that could be spent on building a movement is being wasted on glorified photo-ops?
Cha
(305,447 posts)"Keep sending in those $27 for the next big rally boys and girls!.. that's our movement!" lol
This is a perfect description of sanders.. have you seen it? I just saw that you did..
The Bernie Sanders I Thought I Knew Is Gone
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=155635
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Glad they did not get him elected, it avoided a very large debt in which they would be paying.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)And the author, a black man, was quite clear that minorities don't have the same luxury. I thought it was a well-written piece, worth sharing.
Even if the primary is all but over.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,498 posts)This ...
Yes - and the generational point made is also spot on!