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DemonGoddess

(5,123 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:24 PM Jun 2016

So, doing the math

on Tuesday, HRC only needs 35% to clinch with PLEDGED delegate majority as well. It's unfortunate that it is required of her by her opposition, where it hasn't been the last several cycles, where the SDs pushed the number over.

He can't catch her. It is mathematically impossible. This bullshit about a "contested convention" is just that, bullshit.

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So, doing the math (Original Post) DemonGoddess Jun 2016 OP
Total complete bullshit. Bernie has gotten to be like Trump and wanting the adoration of his fans. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
As I like to say about Bernie rock Jun 2016 #10
Nothing sanders says or his supporters says mean anything beachbumbob Jun 2016 #2
His whole campaign is based on BS workinclasszero Jun 2016 #3
Let him. Digging that hole deeper is all he is doing. William769 Jun 2016 #4
I don't think he feels any shame what so ever. puffy socks Jun 2016 #6
I just heard sarae Jun 2016 #5
yep! watching that now! DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #7
No, I missed that part! Damn... sarae Jun 2016 #8
It was AWESOME!!! DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #9
One small issue with your post. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #11
That's what I said. DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #12
I agree. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #13
the required pledged delegate majority is what I'm referring to. DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #15
Understood. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #17
I don't give a hot shit what Sanders or his supporters demand. Their artificial metric of demanding BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #14
+1...I agree. n/t Kang Colby Jun 2016 #16
Bernie has never been a fan of following the rules Haveadream Jun 2016 #18
Gracias, DemonGoddess! Cha Jun 2016 #19
But, keep sending Sanders your money. You never know... nt anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #20
that better not be directed at me DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #21
He has become his initials liberal N proud Jun 2016 #22
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. Nothing sanders says or his supporters says mean anything
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:27 PM
Jun 2016

The DNC wil take care of sanders as he has reneged on their agreement...

William769

(55,828 posts)
4. Let him. Digging that hole deeper is all he is doing.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jun 2016

He will have to retire after this. He won't be able to show his face in the Senate.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
6. I don't think he feels any shame what so ever.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:33 PM
Jun 2016

HJe's never world well with others and, of course, it's always their fault.
He's too arrogant to give a hoot what Dems think of him . He has never cared.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
5. I just heard
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:32 PM
Jun 2016

on Joy Reid's show, that Bernie Sanders did nothing to support down-ballot Dems (i.e., superdelegates) so, "What makes him think that they'll turn around and support him now?"

DemonGoddess

(5,123 posts)
7. yep! watching that now!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:52 PM
Jun 2016

and on that note, did you see her and O'Donnel destroy that Trump spokesperson on his racism? It was GLORIOUS!

sarae

(3,284 posts)
8. No, I missed that part! Damn...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jun 2016

I'll have to look it up. I love watching Trump supporters get eviscerated.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
11. One small issue with your post.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:18 PM
Jun 2016

I think this highlights how absurd the Sanders campaign is. You said:

It's unfortunate that it is required of her by her opposition, where it hasn't been the last several cycles, where the SDs pushed the number over


Hillary will finish Tuesday with a pledged delegate majority.

But what Bernie is actually demanding is that she reach 2383 with pledged delegates alone. The "magic number" of 2383 is a majority (50%+1) of all delegates, including supers. So in other words, the #berniemath is that Hillary must include all delegates (pledged+super) in the denominator, but based on #berniemath, Hillary is not allowed to include supers in the numerator until the convention. Fortunately, the DNC doesn't follow #berniemath.

DemonGoddess

(5,123 posts)
12. That's what I said.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:26 PM
Jun 2016

I just didn't type out the NUMBERS.

To win the majority in pledged delegates, she has to be at 2026. She'll easily have that by the end of Tuesday. She's WELL ahead in the popular vote, and she has a wipeout in SDs.

She'll win on ALL counts.

He has no path. He hasn't had one.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
13. I agree.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jun 2016

But your post makes it sound like it is uncommon for a candidate to be required to finish with a pledged majority...when it is in fact common. What's uncommon is for a candidate to reach a delegate majority only using pledged delegates.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
17. Understood.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jun 2016

In my opinion, it just didn't read that way. I'm not trying to argue though.

on Tuesday, HRC only needs 35% to clinch with PLEDGED delegate majority as well. It's unfortunate that it is required of her by her opposition,


It read like you are saying that Bernie is requiring she clinch with a pledged delegate majority...but that's not what he is demanding. He is saying she should clinch a delegate majority (super+pledged) using ONLY pledged delegates....which is damn near impossible. I don't know if anyone running has ever done that....except those running unopposed.

#berniemath.
 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
14. I don't give a hot shit what Sanders or his supporters demand. Their artificial metric of demanding
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:46 PM
Jun 2016

victory based on pledged delegates alone is something they pulled out of their asses when it became clear that he was going to be the loser. 2383 is the 50.1% from a number that includes super-delegates. They don't just get to change the rules and say it has to be reached with pledged alone, certainly not when their failed candidate couldn't reach that number on his best day. Sanders himself needs more than 100% of remaining delegates to clinch by his own standard. It's a bullshit argument, and one I'm tired of hearing about.

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
18. Bernie has never been a fan of following the rules
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:22 PM
Jun 2016

except when they can be used in his favor. I once thought of him a paragon of ethics but as this election has gone on, he has revealed a much less admirable side to his personality. Not only is he extremely negative towards everyone but his sycophants but incredibly manipulative about the rules. Apparently he is fine with caucuses, non Democratic voters and super delegates overturning the will of the people. Not surprised he wants a whole new metric for "winning". That to me is the worst of politics as usual and not someone who is working to change the system. What a fraud.

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