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LAS14

(14,697 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:25 AM Jun 2016

OK. You need a majority of votes to win a two person contest. Right?

So if you include super delegates Hillary will have a majority by the end of Tuesday.

BUT if you EXCLUDE super delegates, as Bernie has been wanting to do all along (except for his flip-em strategy) she STILL has a majority.

So Bernie wants to exclude super delegates when calculating whether Hillary has the magic number - a majority of pledged plus super delegates. If he wants the media and everyone else to ignore superdelegates, then we should switch the magic number to be a majority of pledged delegates. Right????

I don't get it. Why does anyone go along with his thinking?

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George II

(67,782 posts)
1. Give it up, I've explained that about a dozen times in the last week or two. No one will accept it.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:27 AM
Jun 2016

I've summed it up like this, in their eyes:

>50% + > 50% = <50%.

(pledged, superdelegates, total)

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
2. you take 50% + 1 of the pledged delgates which is what 2026...as you remove supers altogether and
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:32 AM
Jun 2016

hillary will meet this number too.....she will have the majority....and its a very large majority of all 4 metrics

votes
pledged delegates
super delegates
and final delegate count of pledged and supers


no argument exist that denies the fact hillary has won evey thing a winning candidate can win and bernie has lost everything a losing candidate can lose

caquillo

(521 posts)
9. .
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:03 AM
Jun 2016
no argument exist that denies the fact hillary has won evey thing a winning candidate can win and bernie has lost everything a losing candidate can lose


Sadly, when you're a woman or a minority, you have to do better than your best against The Man. You have to be exceptional, and even that may not cut it.
 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
11. Clinton won 29 out of 57 States! Puerto Rico was 29th win!
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jun 2016

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Nate CohnVerified account
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Not like it matters, but Puerto Rico was Clinton's 29th victory and she will therefore win a majority of the 57 contests of the season

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/739879650579582976

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
3. Easy. According to Sanders, she's not leading by a big enough margin.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:34 AM
Jun 2016

Simply winning isn't good enough for him.

Cha

(305,447 posts)
8. 800 delegates aren't enough? I wish President Obama would
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jun 2016

explain it to him. I hope that happens.. I can only imagine what he thinks of him by now.

Nate Cohn
✔ ?@Nate_Cohn
Clinton now leads Sanders by 800 delegates, per NBC count. She's 24 away from the 2,383 needed to win. He's 824 away.
3:58 PM - 5 Jun 2016 · Manhattan, NY, United States
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http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/6/5/1534921/-Hillary-wins-Puerto-Rico

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
10. anything sanders says is nonsense now his rationale doesn't work on any level
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:25 AM
Jun 2016

whether in sports, elections, or life


all ego driven by a small man that can't handle the attention of the big stage

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
4. 4,051 Pledged Delegates plus 714 Super Delegates = Total +4,765
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:44 AM
Jun 2016

2026 Majority of Pledged Delegates
2383 Majority of Total Delegates

She will reach both on Tuesday!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:2016USDem
 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
7. 2026 - 1811 (HRC's Pledged Delegates as of Today) = 215 To reach Pledged Delegates Majority
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jun 2016

694 Pledged Delegates for grabs on Tuesday! She needs 32% of Pledged Delegates!

Half of New Jersey is 63
Half of California is 237.5

63 + 237.5 = 300

She will have 300 guaranteed Delegates on Tuesday!

She reaches Majority either way!

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
14. BUT! Superdelegates are bad!
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:16 PM
Jun 2016

They are proof that the Democratic party is corrupt! Oh, except any supers who flip to Bernie. Which is none. So, superdelegates are bad!

The man not only doesn't understand simple math...I'm talking about third grade math, not calculus...but he makes no sense.

DemonGoddess

(5,123 posts)
15. As everyone else has said
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jun 2016

by the end of Tuesday, she will have clinched with EVERY metric. Majority of pledged, majority of pledged+SD, majority of SD, majority of contests, majority of votes.

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