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beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:43 PM Jun 2016

Needs asking is Bernie treating Hillary the way he does out of sexism?

The breaking story on sanders and Obama being named presumptive nominee and sanders jumping in with his support...appears to contradict all sanders been saying and demanding...is it because it's a female and he thinks he can bully???....or even worse...did sanders jump on obsmas bandwagon just because he was black?..,,no matter what..sanders has really dug his grave with the American people....a two-faced sexist...or worse

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Needs asking is Bernie treating Hillary the way he does out of sexism? (Original Post) beachbumbob Jun 2016 OP
I don't know, but I was horrified to see how he treats his wife. displacedtexan Jun 2016 #1
It's obvious women don't rank in his world beachbumbob Jun 2016 #2
Come again? caquillo Jun 2016 #3
2008 sanders offers immediate endorsement and support of Obama beachbumbob Jun 2016 #5
I was referring to displacedtexan caquillo Jun 2016 #9
Here you go! displacedtexan Jun 2016 #7
Thanks! caquillo Jun 2016 #10
Whoa.Why would he say that? How mean. But he hasn't ever been exactly charming skylucy Jun 2016 #17
Well, I have my personal thoughts on that and he's done nothing to disabuse me of any of it, BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #4
Yep...just saying it's looking more and more as a sexism issue... beachbumbob Jun 2016 #8
Yes. DURHAM D Jun 2016 #6
It is my opinion that the answer to your question is "Yes." Remember, women who lived through BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #11
I wasn't around during the counter-culture 60s sarae Jun 2016 #13
And not just in this country Ellen Forradalom Jun 2016 #15
As someone else said, sarae Jun 2016 #12
I agree. Ellen Forradalom Jun 2016 #16
I've been thinking the same thing. skylucy Jun 2016 #18
This story could be on the national news tonight beachbumbob Jun 2016 #14

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
1. I don't know, but I was horrified to see how he treats his wife.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jun 2016

Not a big Jane fan, either, but no one deserves to be yelled at in public, "Don't stand there!"

caquillo

(521 posts)
3. Come again?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jun 2016

What happened? Or better yet, is there a link?

One thing I love about Bill and Hillary Clinton is the amount of respect they have for each other. Bill obviously was impressed by Hillary's intellect. I love that in 1992, he let her take an active role in the campaign and even stated that he might find a cabinet position for her. I was only 12 then, but I vaguely recall there being an outcry because Hillary wasn't your traditional political wife -- or woman. She got a lot of flack for saying that she could've been an at-home mom and baked cookies, but instead chose to remain a professional woman -- all the while also co-raising a successful daughter, with whom she's very close.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
5. 2008 sanders offers immediate endorsement and support of Obama
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jun 2016

As soon as Obama was proclaimed the presumptive nominee....the media outlets are starting to report on this now...links been posted in other threads

skylucy

(3,854 posts)
17. Whoa.Why would he say that? How mean. But he hasn't ever been exactly charming
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jun 2016

in one on one interviews either. And the way he treated the young journalist today when she question him about it looking sexist to refuse to acknowledge that the first woman ever had won the nomination was pretty off putting too.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
4. Well, I have my personal thoughts on that and he's done nothing to disabuse me of any of it,
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jun 2016

but I can't say for 100% sure since, well, I can't read his mind. I can only read "the writing on the wall" and the way he treated both his wife at a rally and Hillary during the debates - in addition to refusing to admit Hillary won while making excuses that he didn't have back in 2008 when Obama was called the winner by all media because of superdelegates, too - makes it look like a case can be made.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
8. Yep...just saying it's looking more and more as a sexism issue...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jun 2016

Sanders has much in common with trump...would it be too far fetch he has problems with strong intelligent women too? Needs asking

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
11. It is my opinion that the answer to your question is "Yes." Remember, women who lived through
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jun 2016

the counter-culture 60s often found that men in the leftist movements dismissed women's concerns out of hand, being more concerned with their own wallets than anything else. Bernie is of that generation.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
13. I wasn't around during the counter-culture 60s
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:44 PM
Jun 2016

but that's something I've noticed throughout my own life as well. Many of the "liberal" men are only liberal when it comes to their issues (which only makes me more thankful for the good ones).

I found this quote by Amanda Fortini "The Feminist Reawakening" (2008) that sums it up well:

"If you say anything about the specificity of Hillary being a woman, you're just doing the knee-jerk feminist stuff, that's the reaction,' said one woman..."Thinking about race is a serious issue, whereas sexism is just something for dumb feminists to think about."

Ellen Forradalom

(16,178 posts)
15. And not just in this country
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jun 2016

Same problem with the German student movement in the 60s.

The sexist attitudes of the counterculture dudebros lead directly to the women's movements here and in West Germany.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
12. As someone else said,
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jun 2016

I don't know what's in Bernie's head but I do think it's rooted in some sexism. It may not even be something he's very conscious of, but I think we all internalize society's messages to some extent.

I don't think it's a coincidence that he's acting way more stubborn than any of the previous losing candidates (despite the fact that he's losing by more than Clinton was in 2008!), or that younger white males overwhelmingly prefer Bernie to Hillary.

Ellen Forradalom

(16,178 posts)
16. I agree.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:30 PM
Jun 2016

I think that the younger white males look at Hillary and see Mom. That brings up images of early bedtimes, homework and broccoli. Not hip at all.

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