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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:56 PM Jun 2016

Today in Bernie Sanders Hypocrisy

Superdelegates are bad, but they used to be good, and they'll be good again if they vote for him at the Convention.
BY JACK HOLMES

Bernie Sanders doesn't like superdelegates. Neither do members of Bernie's staff, nor Bernie's legions of supporters. Superdelegates are unelected, unaccountable, undemocratic. These party elites, who get to vote however they want, shouldn't be counted in assessments of the Democratic primary race. Superdelegates "don't count until they vote, and they don't vote until we get to the convention," Bernie's campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, said on CNN last month.

But, as The Hill reminds us, Sanders didn't always sing the same tune. On June 5, 2008—two days after the last state voted, but before Hillary Clinton dropped out—Sanders pledged his support to then-Senator Barack Obama in an interview with The Burlington Free-Press. The Vermont senator had customarily held off endorsing anyone, the paper explained, until the party had chosen a nominee.

Except that Obama was not yet the nominee.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a45267/bernie-sanders-superdelegates/

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Today in Bernie Sanders Hypocrisy (Original Post) workinclasszero Jun 2016 OP
Yeah, pretty hard to reconcile that one, which is why it's being mostly ignored by the Sanders camp. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #1
"Wait wait ... it's apples and oranges!" :-P NurseJackie Jun 2016 #2
Just proves beyond all doubt that Sanders AND his followers workinclasszero Jun 2016 #3
Yeah, that appears to be the response du jour. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #7
What I want to know is forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #4
Because they were suckered into letting him run as a democrat in the first place workinclasszero Jun 2016 #5
Well, I meant in Vermont. forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #6
Mainly because he caucuses with the Dems somewhat reliably. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #9
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #11
This election cycle only made it worse. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #12
The latest lines o' bull on this is that an endorsement puffy socks Jun 2016 #8
What a crock eh? workinclasszero Jun 2016 #10
Yes, a HUGE crock. puffy socks Jun 2016 #13
Jeff Weaver just said that same thing only moments ago! displacedtexan Jun 2016 #14

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
1. Yeah, pretty hard to reconcile that one, which is why it's being mostly ignored by the Sanders camp.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jun 2016

I do suspect, however, that it will play a small role in how he handles the next couple days.

Personally, I think he's going to concede, perhaps as early as tomorrow. If not then, after DC votes next week.

If he doesn't, it's going to look rather hypocritical.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
3. Just proves beyond all doubt that Sanders AND his followers
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jun 2016

will do anything, say anything, throw all standards and their avowed love of the sacred vote and will of the people right out the f***in window in pursuit of RAW POLITICAL POWER!

F***IN hypocrites!

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
5. Because they were suckered into letting him run as a democrat in the first place
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jun 2016

Thinking he would run a fair campaign. A real democrat would have dropped out after NY at the latest.

But Bernie stays in to do maximum damage to Hillary and the party he has hated his whole life!

 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
6. Well, I meant in Vermont.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jun 2016

Why did the DNC stop anyone from challenging him? Why did they actually fund his campaigns? I mean he had Hillary AND Obama campaign for him. The "Establishment" has given him a free ride for decades.

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
9. Mainly because he caucuses with the Dems somewhat reliably.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jun 2016

He talks a big game about "both sides are bad" but does generally tend to side with the Dems most of the time, so the DNC puts up with it essentially for the numbers.

 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
11. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:30 PM
Jun 2016

I think the Dems are going to have to put a lot of work into voter education, especially with my generation; we have a lot of information but most of it is trash because clickbaity outrage shit makes more money than actual civics.

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
12. This election cycle only made it worse.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jun 2016

We've had one candidate spend half of the campaign broad-brushing all but a tiny fraction of Dems as right-wing narcissists, and his supporters hammered out the same nonsense for months. Voters have short memories, but it's still going to require some effort to remind people that there's a big difference between mainstream Dems and mainstream Republicans.

Luckily, we have Donald Trump available as a visual aid.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
8. The latest lines o' bull on this is that an endorsement
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jun 2016

is different than a senator saying he supports a candidate.

and that it was after the primaries were over

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
13. Yes, a HUGE crock.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jun 2016

The BoBers can justify anything. I don't see much difference between them and a cult like Scientology because this has been going on since way before anyone was upset at losing. They started this kind of hypocritical stuff and the vitriol when Bernie entered the race.





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