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caquillo

(521 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:44 AM Jun 2016

Sanders loses convention leverage

Bernie's summer was supposed to be about strengthening his hand for the Democratic convention. But since the California primary, his position has gotten weaker.

BURLINGTON, Vt. — Leverage: it’s the one thing Bernie Sanders’ advisors and aides consistently point to when asked why, exactly, he’s formally staying in the Democratic primary race that he’s lost to Hillary Clinton.

But it's the one thing he’s been bleeding every day ever since he dropped California’s primary by a much wider-than-expected margin last week. Sanders’ summer was supposed to be all about building leverage for the Democratic convention, providing him with a better hand to play as he presses Clinton to accept his policy positions and party reform suggestions. Now, the people closest to him aren’t sure how exactly to get it back.

His first and most prominent endorsers have jumped off the bandwagon, congratulating and in some cases endorsing Clinton — from Sen. Jeff Merkley to Rep. Raul Grijalva, and from the Communications Workers of America to MoveOn.org.Each of the big-name Democrats and groups who steadfastly remained neutral in the primary have flocked to Clinton over the past week, from President Barack Obama to Sen. Elizabeth Warren to the AFL-CIO. Even Sanders' highest-profile congressional endorsee, Nevada’s Lucy Flores, lost her primary bid on Tuesday despite his cash injection into her campaign.

Yet on Thursday night, speaking to over 200,000 viewers who tuned into his live-streamed video address, Sanders vowed to press on — pledging to fight to defeat Donald Trump but refusing to formally back Clinton and insisting his army of supporters isn’t going anywhere.


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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/sanders-loses-convention-leverage-224469
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Sanders loses convention leverage (Original Post) caquillo Jun 2016 OP
As a posted article said--Sanders is running on Windows 95. riversedge Jun 2016 #1
nope, he's running on Windows NT 2000 DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #23
Interesting analogy. Enough said. George II Jun 2016 #29
Sanders had very little leverage right now Gothmog Jun 2016 #2
He may be responding to his supporters but it is over. I would have thought he Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #3
The more he whines and seeks visibility, he dooms himself livetohike Jun 2016 #4
That's what trojan horse tactics are.. not only "change" but disingenuosly Diss it.. demonize Cha Jun 2016 #7
I hope they ignore him at the convention, or give him a 1:00 a.m. livetohike Jun 2016 #15
Yeah.. let him whine.. nothing new. Cha Jun 2016 #18
A-friggin'-men! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #9
Hi Surya! livetohike Jun 2016 #16
Hiya, livetohike! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #22
He didn't join the Democratic party. He just used its infrastructure. He wasn't a Democrat KittyWampus Jun 2016 #13
Agree. He will change his registration back to Independent once livetohike Jun 2016 #20
This explanation probably is closer to the truth that he will every admit. Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #24
You are right pandr32 Jun 2016 #27
Add to this that he had no real idea how to get the things he wanted done, he just was never upaloopa Jun 2016 #5
Well done, upaloopa. Mahalo for the reminder.. He couldn't even explain Cha Jun 2016 #8
Why does everyone always feel the need to post his pic.. we've seen it a few Cha Jun 2016 #6
Good article. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #10
Obscurity is where Sanders is headed - He is just trying to hold on as long as he can liberal N proud Jun 2016 #11
K & R Koinos Jun 2016 #12
BS will never ever ever say the "U" word. Can't make him. Nope. Not. Nada. Her Sister Jun 2016 #14
"they discussed "unifying the party" but BS said "NO way No How" lol Cha Jun 2016 #17
Yes, you're right! Her Sister Jun 2016 #19
I just can't.. Cha Jun 2016 #21
He's like the unwanted guest NastyRiffraff Jun 2016 #25
214,000 fans do not a revolution make. displacedtexan Jun 2016 #26
Ya think?... nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #28
Not only has he lost "leverage", he's lost all credibility after that sham of a speech. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jun 2016 #30

DemonGoddess

(5,123 posts)
23. nope, he's running on Windows NT 2000
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:51 AM
Jun 2016

short lived, awful OS. The first Win 95 was bad, but NT 2000 was worse.

Anyway, I really need to stay out of the comments in the posted links. Anyone have any brain bleach?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. He may be responding to his supporters but it is over. I would have thought he
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:00 AM
Jun 2016

Would have been interested in agreeing to go forward on issues which he and Hillary could agree but I dont see where he is interested in the issues but more interested in controlling the DNC.

livetohike

(22,967 posts)
4. The more he whines and seeks visibility, he dooms himself
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:01 AM
Jun 2016

to irrelevancy. He will not enter the convention with any leverage other than being an also ran.

It still amazes me the nerve he has to suddenly join the Democratic Party and then want to change everything about it!

Cha

(305,406 posts)
7. That's what trojan horse tactics are.. not only "change" but disingenuosly Diss it.. demonize
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:16 AM
Jun 2016

it and Hillary, too.

Dissing the Dems who didn't endorse him as #Establishment, like they're not worthy because they endorsed Hillary. The very Dems who Filibustered last night to get a vote on banning assault rifles.. that he couldn't even be bothered to join them.

He deserves nothing.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
9. A-friggin'-men!
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:19 AM
Jun 2016
It still amazes me the nerve he has to suddenly join the Democratic Party and then want to change everything about it!
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
13. He didn't join the Democratic party. He just used its infrastructure. He wasn't a Democrat
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:11 AM
Jun 2016

and he still isn't a Democrat.

livetohike

(22,967 posts)
20. Agree. He will change his registration back to Independent once
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:28 AM
Jun 2016

this is over. Hope he gets primaried. He needs more time off in VT to work on his revolution.

Arkansas Granny

(31,827 posts)
24. This explanation probably is closer to the truth that he will every admit.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:52 AM
Jun 2016

He certainly isn't acting like a Democrat now.

pandr32

(12,168 posts)
27. You are right
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:57 AM
Jun 2016

He is not with any other Democrats, not supporting them in the Senate. In short, he is talking down to, or criticizing Democrats as he does nothing except for wanting to "reform" the Party and platform so he can feel important--all the while not doing any work yet taking all the credit for "being there first" on everything, and not backing those who actually do the heavy lifting.

What a guy! What's that saying? Hmmmm--with "friends" like that, who needs enemies?

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
5. Add to this that he had no real idea how to get the things he wanted done, he just was never
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:08 AM
Jun 2016

Presidential.

The idea that he could get millions of people off their keyboards and into action was a joke.

Large rallies and internet polls just are not going to get any progressive change done.

We will be the ones working to get a progressive Congress, SCOTUS and White House while Bernie and his followers make more speeches and refuse to vote.

Cha

(305,406 posts)
8. Well done, upaloopa. Mahalo for the reminder.. He couldn't even explain
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:19 AM
Jun 2016

to the NYDN how to "break up the banks".

Cha

(305,406 posts)
6. Why does everyone always feel the need to post his pic.. we've seen it a few
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:10 AM
Jun 2016

million times.. I think we know what he looks like.

Sorry..

So.. to the article.. And, just to be clear.. I never expect anything from him.

Money Quote..

His first and most prominent endorsers have jumped off the bandwagon, congratulating and in some cases endorsing Clinton — from Sen. Jeff Merkley to Rep. Raul Grijalva, and from the Communications Workers of America to MoveOn.org .Each of the big-name Democrats and groups who steadfastly remained neutral in the primary have flocked to Clinton over the past week, from President Barack Obama to Sen. Elizabeth Warren to the AFL-CIO. Even Sanders' highest-profile congressional endorsee, Nevada’s Lucy Flores, lost her primary bid on Tuesday despite his cash injection into her campaign.

Gracias, caquillo~






 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
14. BS will never ever ever say the "U" word. Can't make him. Nope. Not. Nada.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:15 AM
Jun 2016
Clinton, for example, noted that the two had discussed “unifying the party” — a phrase that was glaringly omitted from Sanders’ version.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/sanders-loses-convention-leverage-224469#ixzz4BqHDigC3

Cha

(305,406 posts)
17. "they discussed "unifying the party" but BS said "NO way No How" lol
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:21 AM
Jun 2016

Hillary knows BS is doing himself in .. she doesn't have to say anything..

It will work itself out.. so she doesn't get his endorsement..

We'll win without him.

We got Oprah!

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
19. Yes, you're right!
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:28 AM
Jun 2016

It's infuriating though, listening to him last night. Every time he dissed the Democratic Party. Why doesn't he go and fix the Republican Party for them. I think they are wishing for a Savior!

You were smart not to listen/watch last night for sure. The self-importance was especially elevated...

While I knew WE HAVE OUR NOMINEE and SHE is a live one!!!!

Cha

(305,406 posts)
21. I just can't..
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:42 AM
Jun 2016

I am not a masochist! That's what I'd being to myself if I did.

I stopped all corp manufactured news in Nov 2002.. because I couldn't stand their lies.. think I'm going watch that ************* in 2016.. uh uh.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
25. He's like the unwanted guest
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:00 AM
Jun 2016

who crashes the party, criticizes the hors d'oeuvres, the decor, and the other guests. And pees on the carpet and writes graffiti on the bathroom walls.

The country dodged a bullet and went for the real deal: HILLARY CLINTON!

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
26. 214,000 fans do not a revolution make.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:31 AM
Jun 2016

This was supposed to be the definitive call to revolution speech. It sounded to me like a ransom note list of demands. And, seriously, what's his endgame? I'm still wondering what he will ultimately do after the election. Any ideas?

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