Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumYes, Bernie Sanders Really Is Winding Down His ‘Revolution’
Michael Tomasky
The Daily Beast
06.16.16 10:49 PM ET
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Consider the speechs structure. It came in four parts. Part one, how amazing are the things I/we have accomplished. Part two, how important it is to defeat Donald Trump. Part three, how the Democratic Party needs to change more in his image. Part four, how the peoples revolution must continue beyond this year and manifest itself in Bern-feelers running for office and staying involved in politics far beyond this campaign.
hat is to say, only one part out of four was directly confrontational to the Democratic power structure, and even that part picked its spots quite carefully. He ticked off 15 matters on which he suggested the Democrats ought to follow him. But on 10 of them, Hillary Clinton already agrees (and indeed on a few of them, like guns and equal pay for women, shes done more than he has and is more committed than heId even add health-care-as-a-right to that list, since as first lady she helped lead the charge for health care for poor children, the S-CHIP program, which is free for poor children).
There were five that left room for platform committee fights: the $15 minimum wage (she backs that in more expensive cities but says it could be lower in less expensive areas); a fracking ban, which she does not support and which a president has no power to impose anyway; a modern-day Glass-Steagall to break up the banks; free college tuition; and health care as a right for all, which she would say she backs but not in the sense that he means it (everything free for everyone, financed by taxes).
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Then the last part of the speech, and the part that drew the most attention from Bernie people on Twitter, was the the revolution must go on part. This was the section that gave his people the signal that this was bigger than Bernie, and I give him credit for emphasizing it, because to me this was a campaign that had some cult-of-personality aspects to it from the start. But this was Sanders clearly signaling: I know Im 74, and I hope what Ive started here survives me.
So thats how his people saw it. How actual Democrats saw itand I dont mean the banking lobbyist, I mean the state committeewoman from Illinois who is a public-interest lawyer in EvanstonIm not sure. Less favorably, Im sure. She no doubt hung on the key two sentences: The major political task that we face in the next five months is to make certain that Donald Trump is defeated and defeated badly. And I personally intend to begin my role in that process in a very short period of time. Those sentences, along with the election reform matter he left out, signaled a de facto endorsement of Clinton, whether his people want to admit that or not.
But Im pretty sure my Evanston lawyer also heard the grandiosity that Sanders, a candidate who certainly did much better than expected but in the end lost by quite a large margin, assigned to himself. To her and to thousands like herprecisely the people forgotten in the Clinton-Sanders debate all these months, because they are representative of the little people who are for Clinton, which seems to most of the media oxymoronic, but they are real, and they number in the many millionsBernie is now old news. And hes just going to get older every week.
Yes it's time for Bernie to throw in the towel. he's becoming a shadow of his former self the longer he continues his quixotic campaign. Unfortunately as Tomasky points out, his followers probably didn't get the message from this on line speech.
stopbush
(24,630 posts)will last the year.
This was a personality based fad. Nothing more, nothing less. Now that the idol is departing the scene, there's really nothing left for his zealots to rally around.
If they couldn't be bothered to vote - or to even register to vote - when the mania was in full swing, how are they going to keep a personality driven movement alive without the personality?
Just as Sanders overestimated his leverage post-defeat, the media and just about everyone else has overestimated what the Sanders "revolution" actually was, and what its chances were for surviving past the primaries.
I give it a 5% chance, give or take 5%.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)And, hey, I could be wrong but a more inept, ham fisted and affected lot I could not imagine. I don't think there will be any revolution. They simply don't have what it takes.
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)Especially his follow-up tweet about how he hopes history recognizes that all the good stuff to come started with his campaign 'revolution'.
I get everyone needs to acknowledge that yes, Sanders ran, and his novelty reached some kids and some usually at odds with Dems.
But as usual he goes farther than reality will support. Just never mind, I guess, Birmingham or the Stonewall or Blair Mountain? Stanton, Anthony, Sojourner, MLK and Chavez, stand aside, Bernie happened?
Madness.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)That would be historical!!!
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)He ticked off 15 matters on which he suggested the Democrats ought to follow him.
But on 10 of them, Hillary Clinton already agrees (and indeed on a few of them, like guns and equal pay for women, shes done more than he has and is more committed than heId even add health-care-as-a-right to that list, since as first lady she helped lead the charge for health care for poor children, the S-CHIP program, which is free for poor children).
AGAIN:
But on 10 of them, Hillary Clinton already agrees (and indeed on a few of them, like guns and equal pay for women, shes done more than he has and is more committed than he.
But on 10 of them, Hillary Clinton already agrees (and indeed on a few of them, like guns and equal pay for women, shes done more than he has and is more committed than he.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/16/bernie-sanders-winds-down-his-revolution.html
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NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Not good enough. He needs to publicly and explicitly endorse the Democratic nominee, or he's not making "certain that Donald Trump is defeated and defeated badly." I don't hope for the graceful and complete endorsement Hillary Clinton gave to Obama in 2008; I don't think Sanders has that in him. But until he does endorse, however reluctantly, I don't believe him about working to defeat Trump.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)I honestly believe that Bernie is a dangerous enemy of our party. He has spent months accusing 99.99% of our leaders of rigging elections, cheating and lying. So far, everything he has done has proved him to be untrustworthy. I would feel better if the Dems let his campaign flounder and die.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)It is time to work towards the GE.