I got an update as to what happened at the Indiana Democratic State Convention today.

[LiberalFighter]

I wasn't able to stay for the whole thing but a friend of mine let me in on what happened.

First, he lost to be a Sanders national convention delegate. I and a few of us in labor decided to vote for the Sanders ballot instead of the Clinton ballot. We were looking to send as many labor as possible to the convention. There weren't any from labor elected for either candidate. The expected and acceptable delegates for Clinton got elected. It appears that they have clueless people going for Sanders.

Second, an officer of our District Party submitted 3 resolutions that worked against the DNC to the Resolution committee and they were shot down. He is a Sanders supporter. As told to me he made himself out as an expert on Roberts Rules. He wasn't. The resolutions were also shot down on the floor. They didn't know how to present motions or anything. I've had problems with the guy and I will be working to have him defeated at the next reorganization.

Third, the person that we tried to go as a Sanders delegate considers the Sanders state convention delegates to be mostly crazies. When making calls to get support from them before the convention he was getting negative responses. Some of them would say they were pledged to the other delegate. The winner was very cold when the friend went to congratulate him.

Fourth, the friend did win to be a Presidential Elector despite the District Chair running someone against him. She has been doing a poor job as the chair and is a Bernie supporter. She failed to recruit a credible candidate for the congressional district. Even failing to campaign for the person that was endorsed by the district. Generally, in our state Presidential Electors are uncontested. But she has made a point of getting a challenger in 2008 that was one of those Lunch Pail Republicans and now in 2016.

We will have a lot of hard work to do in our district this year and then getting reorganized next year.

[TwilightZone]

1. Thanks. Stuff like this from inside the process is very enlightening.

It's also interesting to see that out in the real world, lack of understanding of the process has real consequences. Many of us have been trying to make that point for a while now.

[seabeckind]

2. Who won the primary in Indiana?

Why is the Indiana Democratic Party not assisting the people's choice in their representatives to the convention?

Why is labor not being represented?

Looks a lot like a good ole boy network to me.

Not surprised based on the wonderful job the Indiana Democratic Party does in getting democrats elected in the state.

[LiberalFighter]

4. It is up to state convention delegates to elect national delegates. Not the state party.

There are labor union members throughout the whole structure of the party. From precinct committee persons to state party. Cordelia Lewis Burks a member of AFSCME is Vice Chair of the Party. David Frye is a DNC Member and a member of the Laborers Union. There are also many union members that are officers at the District and County level.

As for labor being represented at the national convention as delegates they can't get elected if they don't run. And there are only so many slots available and there were many running for those slots.

Laying the blame entirely on the Indiana Democratic Party is a mistake. Indiana is no different than any other state that tends to be red. Especially when legislative districts were created to favor the Republican Party. Electing Democrats requires voters to actually vote. If they only vote sporadically it doesn't help. Campaigns are also only as good as the volunteers that are involved.

As for good ole boy network you need to check the requirement by the Indiana Democratic Party. Precinct and Vice Precinct committee persons cannot be the same gender. Chairs and Vice Chairs for county, district and state party cannot be the same gender. Chairs and Vice Chairs of each district are members of the state central committee.

[seabeckind]

8. Gender is not a requirement for membership in a good ole boy network.

You're too literal.

Is it not the responsibility of the Indiana Democratic party to control and coordinate the activities of the democratic organization in the state?

Do they not have the responsibility to get democrats elected in the state?

It makes no difference if Indiana operates like other states. Indiana is the state in this topic. And it seems like it seems to be having some difficulty.

[LiberalFighter]

9. What have you been doing in the state to help elect Democrats?

[seabeckind]

10. Trying to deflect?

BTW, perhaps you might have provided a link to the convention.

Oh yeah, that's right. It isn't there.

And now back to the questions you're avoiding?

[George II]

13. Please stop now. You are in the Hillary Clinton group. You may want to consider deleting...

...your posts, too.

Thank you.

[seabeckind]

14. You were a bit ambiguous

Based on the content of your post it was very hard to tell if it was a status report on Indiana delegate dealings, a Bernie bashing thread (well, actually a bash of the Bernie people (democrats) who were doing their job for their candidate), or a gungho Hillary post.

As I said, perhaps you should have done three different posts in three areas. That way there would have been no confusion.

So we'll just leave it as it is.

BTW, I was serious about the party web page. If you look for a report on the convention it pops a 404. Since you have better contacts with them, maybe you can pass it on.

[LiberalFighter]

6. It doesn't matter who won the primary in Indiana.

Sanders doesn't get any more delegates than was allocated based on the election results. He doesn't and won't get them all.

Also, this group is not the place for you.

[seabeckind]

7. I am asking you specific questions regarding the activities

in which you participated. Those activities dealt specifically with the Indiana delegation.

I never made any reference to the number of delegates, nor did I imply that anyone should get more than that determined by the primary totals. I am concerned about the vote I cast. Or is that not permitted under the ToS?

Perhaps you posted it in the wrong place.

Maybe it ought to be in Indiana.

[LiberalFighter]

11. You need to revisit the questions you asked. I answered them.

You did not asked specific questions that involved my direct participation.

You asked the following:

Who won the primary in Indiana? --- You already knew the answer to that.

Why is the Indiana Democratic Party not assisting the people's choice in their representatives to the convention? --- I gave you an answer.

Why is labor not being represented? --- I gave you an answer.

Looks a lot like a good ole boy network to me. --- I gave you an answer.

Not surprised based on the wonderful job the Indiana Democratic Party does in getting democrats elected in the state. --- I gave you an answer.

As for your question about your concern with the vote you cast. You could had attended the state convention since it was in Indy. It would be best to talk to someone from the Bernie group in Indiana. Your vote made it possible to have delegates to the national convention. And it doesn't change anything. This is also not the Bernie Sanders group.

[Maru Kitteh]

12. Here in the Hillary Clinton group, we will decide what we wish to discuss

Your input on what we discuss here is neither required nor desired.

[DemonGoddess]

3. What I'm hoping for is

that with Trump being the R nominee, this gives OUR side a chance to strengthen in this state. That would be good to see.

Sorry you went through this at convention.

[LiberalFighter]

5. It should help in Indiana.

Recently the Cook Report revised the outcome from Hard Republican to Likely Republican.