An Answer to a SALT-y Tax Problem You Didn't Know You Had
Was a bit confusing to me but perhaps some would make sense
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By Laura Saunders
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This issue may be unfamiliar to some, so heres whats at stake. Taxpayers who itemize deductions on Schedule Aas opposed to taking the standard deductionlist their total payments for state and local property and income or sales taxes. If these filers then receive a state-tax refund, it usually has to be included as taxable income on the filers return the next year. For example, if an itemizer received a $5,000 refund of 2017 state-income taxes, then it often counts as taxable income on the filers 2018 federal return. Without this rule, people could get two federal tax breaks for the same income
The tax overhaul passed by Congress at the end of 2017, however, imposed a $10,000 cap on SALT deductions. That has raised new questions about the tax treatment of state-issued refunds. Say a filer lists $10,000 of property taxes and $20,000 of state income taxes on his federal return for 2018 and then receives a $5,000 state income-tax refund this year. Will two-thirds of the state refund be taxable in 2019, at rates up to 37%, because two-thirds of the SALT write-off was due to state income tax?
Or, will none of the refund be taxable if the filer simply deducts $10,000 of property tax and omits the income tax? According to Mr. Graetz and other scholars, none of the refund is taxable if the total state taxes paid, minus the refund, are $10,000 or more. In this example, the total state income taxes and property taxes are $30,000 and the refund is $5,000. So the net amount of $25,000 is greater than the $10,000 cap, and the $5,000 refund isnt taxable.
This answer springs from a legal doctrine known as the Tax Benefit Rule. Under it, a recovery like a state-tax refund isnt taxable if deducting it didnt yield a tax break, says Bryan Camp, a former IRS attorney who is now a professor at Texas Tech Universitys law school. As a result, millions of filers shouldnt have to distinguish between types of state-tax deductions for 2018 because the SALT limitation combines them all into one unit.
Many people, including some experts, are unaware of this answer. Robert Gordon, a tax strategist who owns Twenty-First Securities in New York, is expecting a large state income-tax refund this year. His return preparer advised him to deduct only his property taxes and state sales taxes, which total more than $10,000, to make it clear that his state-tax refund wont be taxable on his 2019 federal return.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/an-answer-to-a-salt-y-tax-problem-you-didnt-know-you-had-11553247005 (paid subscription)
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As I noted, confusing to me, since our property and state taxes are not more than $10K. I did, however, get a message from this: since for 2018 I used the standard deductions, the state refund will not be added to our 2019 income. (I already am having a spreadsheet running..)
SWBTATTReg
(24,085 posts)Cicada
(4,533 posts)California permits deductions for property tax, car license fee, even tho they may be blocked by the federal cap. I list all state and local taxes because my tax software knows to apply the tax benefit rule next year. As do I.
mahatmakanejeeves
(60,922 posts)I underwitheld state (Virginia) and federal for both tax years 2017 and 2018. Not intentionally; it just turned out that way. Tax year 2018 is full of surprises. I jacked up my withholding for both state and federal about midway through 2018. It still wasn't enough. A lot of funds declared capital gains distributions right around Christmas.
I owe a lot this year.
Thanks, though. It's something to think about. I think I come ahead with a standard deduction. I'll look at it again next week.
Full disclosure: I am not an accountant. You probably already figured that out.
JustAnotherGen
(33,539 posts)Comes from. We are being taxes twice.
No candidate will get my support who does not demand it be lifted.