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Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:01 PM Sep 2021

The Latest IRS Headache for Taxpayers: 11 Million 'Math Error' Notices

Millions of Americans have gotten a scary, confusing letter from the Internal Revenue Service in 2021 saying they owe more taxes. Making matters worse, many of the letters are about stimulus payments meant to lessen the blow of the pandemic. The explosion of IRS bills to taxpayers fall into a category known as “math-error” notices, and the IRS sent out more than 11 million of them from Jan. 1 to mid-August.

That compares with about 765,000 for the same period in pandemic-disrupted 2020 and about 2 million in 2019, according to National Taxpayer Advocate Erin Collins, who heads an independent unit within the IRS charged with safeguarding taxpayer rights. Ms. Collins is trying to help taxpayers who got these notices, and now several million filers will get more time to respond. Despite their name, math-error notices aren’t just about arithmetic. Instead, they are tax adjustments for a variety of issues detected by IRS computers during return processing. They usually result in tax due, a smaller refund or even a higher refund in some cases.

When the letters assess taxes due or reduce refunds, as millions do, they are treacherous for filers because the first notice is also the final notice--unlike with many IRS letters. What’s more, the law assumes recipients have conceded if they don’t respond within 60 days. The case then goes directly to the IRS’s dreaded collections process, so taxpayers often face liens or levies faster than with a conventional audit. Yet the information in math-error notices is often so incomplete that they baffle even tax professionals.

Chastity Wilson, a former IRS lawyer now with professional-services firm CLA, says the firm currently has a client with a math-error assessment of $154,000 for an alternative-minimum-tax issue. But the IRS letter provided no explanation as to why, and the agency moved the case to collections despite timely requests for holds.

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What caught Ms. Collins’s attention when she researched this year’s letters is that the IRS omitted the crucial 60-day deadline on millions of math-error notices it sent involving Rebate Credits. So she pushed back and scored a win for taxpayers: Now about five million recipients of earlier notices will get a new, clearer one restarting the 60-day clock. An IRS spokesperson says the agency hasn’t determined when these letters will be mailed.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-latest-irs-headache-for-taxpayers-11-million-math-error-notices-11630661402 (subscription)

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The Latest IRS Headache for Taxpayers: 11 Million 'Math Error' Notices (Original Post) question everything Sep 2021 OP
If you call IRS now, it says "we can't handle your call" . . . click. Hoyt Sep 2021 #1
Call your member of Congress. Even if a rabid R, they know how to reach the question everything Sep 2021 #2
Good advice, but I doubt I could keep from telling my Congressperson's Hoyt Sep 2021 #3
Am I the only one who suspects sabotage by a Trump appointee? Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #4
+💯. He appointed Barr's daughter to the IRS. Sabotage. nt live love laugh Sep 2021 #7
Expecting this any day bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #5
I got my letter on Saturday. NT mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #6
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. If you call IRS now, it says "we can't handle your call" . . . click.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:19 PM
Sep 2021

Have a similar issue, IRS applied my last 2020 estimated payment to 2019. Thus, they say I didn’t make the required payment for 2020.

Well, screw em. Not a lot of money, but Tired of fighting bureaucratic BS. Private businesses are just as bad if not worse.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Good advice, but I doubt I could keep from telling my Congressperson's
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:07 PM
Sep 2021

office to go screw themselves— he’s almost as bad as Marjorie Taylor Greene.

If IRS really starts hassling me, I’ll write them a letter. It’s obvious their mistake if a real person — not a computer— looks at my tax payments.

Fiendish Thingy

(18,529 posts)
4. Am I the only one who suspects sabotage by a Trump appointee?
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:13 PM
Sep 2021

Pissing off 11 million people is not good leading up to an election…

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