Financial fees for "assets under management"
Glenn Ruffenach Encore column
Following a November column about financial fees. Specifically, I looked at assets under management, which is how many advisers are paid. Using this method, advisers assess their fee as a sharetypically 1% a yearof the money theyre managing for a client.
My original point: Many retirees dont understand how this fee model actually works and, as such, could be paying too much for the help theyre receiving. That thinking, not surprisingly, didnt sit well with advisers, a number of whom told me I was naïve, at best, about the workings of their business. The AUM model, many said, is simple, time-tested, and benefits clients and advisers alike.
(snip, where he posted many comments)
For my part, I still see a fundamental disconnect: An AUM fee is tied more to the size of a clients holdings and less to the actual work being done. Yes, many advisers work diligently for their clients, as do many lawyers, accountants, doctors and other professionals. But financial advisers are the only ones who ask for the size of your wallet before setting a fee.
And yes, clients with large portfolios might well require more workand, thus, pay bigger fees. But I would wager that many or most advisers have well-heeled clients who require little, if any, hand-holding. If you happen to be one of those individuals, why are you paying the same fees as high-maintenance clients?
And if clients are interested primarily in the results that their advisers produceand pay scant attention to their advisers feeswell, shame on those clients. A good financial adviser would tell them that, over time, steep fees, much like high inflation, can erode the value of ones assets.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-financial-advisers-get-paid-what-the-readers-think-11641505154 (subscription)
MichMan
(13,160 posts)Server bringing a $50 steak doesn't work 5x harder than one serving a $10 hamburger. Waiter opening a $100 bottle of wine doesn't work 20x harder than one with a $5 beer.
Yet we tip based on the total bill.
question everything
(48,797 posts)bucolic_frolic
(46,973 posts)When you clock in at 72 with $278,000 they're taking you for $2,780 a year. The 50 years' cumulative fee had chopped your money by about 18%!
I was appalled to find major brokers charging 3% on the buy side. And financial planners $2,000 up front to set ETFs in motion.
Especially when there are sites online that ask you a pile of questions and have a broadly diversified portfolio for $0 to $50. Yes, $0. Zero. Managing money is a tithe game.
And these high-priced advisors choose from a handful of software companies that make the recommendations. They pay the SW a set fee per client, then tweak it 2% here or there and you have top-notch advice! All because the general public is not supposed to know anything about what to invest in, and all the personnel have SEC securities licenses to make similar calls.
As you can tell it makes no sense to me.
h2ebits
(765 posts)I eliminated my "financial advisor" and his percentage of MY money years ago. I can't look back because it just causes me too much discomfort to think about the money I wasted--all because I bought into the idea that I didn't know enough. (And didn't have enough self confidence to know better.)
3Hotdogs
(13,394 posts)and now management fee and probably do as well or better than the guy charging you 1%.