You Made $700 From an Online Side Hustle. Now the IRS Will Know.
Now that your 2021 taxes are doneor at least under wayits time to focus on a key tax change for 2022 affecting millions of Americans making money through platforms like eBay, Etsy, Airbnb, Venmo and Uber. This change, which is beginning to ripple through e-commerce, tightens the tax reporting on income earned by people selling goods and services through online platforms. Starting this year, the platforms must send a Form 1099-K to the Internal Revenue Service reporting an individuals total revenue if platform earnings top $600.
Now, many more sellers, resellers and gig workers than in the past will have their platform earnings reported to the IRS. The upshot: They may have to pay taxes they havent been paying, or else keep complex records showing why they dont need to. Under prior law, platforms only had to send 1099-K forms if a vendor earned more than $20,000 and had over 200 transactions. The new bar is so low that opponents are trying to get it changed before the platforms send out a blizzard of confusing tax forms next January.
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Platforms like eBay, Airbnb, et al. have had to send 1099-K forms to their sellers for years. But the prior threshold of 200 transactions and $20,000 of revenue left room for significant tax dodging. If an owner of a short-term rental earned $30,000 from 25 rentals in a year, the rental platform didnt have to send a 1099-K form because the owner had 200 or fewer transactionseven though revenue topped $20,000.
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The tax issues are different for many sellers on eBay and similar platforms, especially casual resellers cleaning out closets and attics. These vendors may not owe tax at all if theyre selling items for less than they paidor, when it comes to items inherited from Grandma, less than the items value on the date of death. They also wont have to submit a form to the IRS detailing the purchase and selling prices of items, at least for now.
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Alarmed by the $600 thresholds effects on e-commerce, some members of Congress are hoping to change the law for 2022. Proposals include repealing current law and restoring prior thresholds, or raising the 1099-K bar to $5,000. Nina Olson is one prominent tax specialist supporting an increase in the threshold, perhaps to $5,000. Ms. Olson, the longtime National Taxpayer Advocate at the IRS, now heads the Center for Taxpayer Rights. She points out that the $600 threshold for 1099-K forms, which also applies to two other 1099 forms received by self-employed workers, derives from a 1950s provision that wasnt adjusted for inflation. If it had been, these thresholds would now be about $6,000, and she hopes Congress will raise them for all three forms.
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MichMan
(13,160 posts)bucolic_frolic
(46,973 posts)Most people's households are filled with stuff for which receipts and valuation on specific dates are nonexistent.
Congress is creating another tax nightmare.
Paper Roses
(7,505 posts)I am not trying to make $$$, I just need to thin out some of the furniture that I have accumulated. I'm a widow and my 2 children are in their own houses and don't need anything. I can't imagine how I can make any kind of a dent in this stuff at $600.
Whoever thought this ceiling was practical has no idea what anyone facing a possible move will face. Can't give it away, not interested in making money but the figure for this is ridiculous. The market for my furniture is in the dumps. It seems that old, formal furniture is out...I'd be lucky to get much of anything. My dining room table was almost $2000 years ago, I'd be lucky to get $500 for it now. add a couple of small tables and I'm way over the limit.
sl8
(16,245 posts)You owe taxes on the profit you make. If you sold the table for $2200, then $200 of that would be taxable.
Paper Roses
(7,505 posts)No reason to save receipts for all those years. I'd be lucky to get a few thousand dollars for the stuff I'd like to sell. $600 is just not workable for me and others.
sl8
(16,245 posts)It doesn't matter whether it's one item or a million. You pay income tax on the profits.
Now, ebay/Paypal/etc will generate a 1099-k once you go over $600, but that doesn't mean it's taxable income.
MichMan
(13,160 posts)sl8
(16,245 posts)Is it required that you prove the original cost?
When we have to come up with values for our capital equipment at work (for depreciation purposes & whatnot) we were instructed to make our best estimate. The internet helps tremendously in looking up original prices, blue books, price guides, etc..
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This rule doesn't change the taxes you owe one iota, it changes (lowers) the threshold for reporting transactions. You'd owe the same tax with or without that 1099-k.
MichMan
(13,160 posts)Out of curiosity, how would you handle it if there was no 1099-k? Your tax obligation wouldn't change.
MichMan
(13,160 posts)(including shiping) and it wouldn't therefore be my responsibility to prove to them it isn't all new income
sl8
(16,245 posts)Have you seen that somewhere?
MichMan
(13,160 posts)No one knows yet. Other 1099 must be entered on your tax forms and are regarded as income. Since the justification for this new law is apparently to capture untaxed "gig" income, it isn't illogical to expect that it will be considered taxable
sl8
(16,245 posts)Some, all, or none of that might be taxable income
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/understanding-your-form-1099-k
Understanding Your Form 1099-K
MichMan
(13,160 posts)It is important that your business books and records reflect your business income, including any amounts that may be reported on Form 1099-K. You must report on your income tax return all income you receive from your business. In most cases, your business income will be in the form of cash, checks, and debit/credit card payments. Business income is generally referred to as gross receipts on income tax returns. Therefore, you should consider the amounts shown on Form 1099-K, along with all other amounts received, when calculating gross receipts for your income tax return.
Sounds like anyone getting a 1099-K will have to file business tax forms and schedules along with their individual return regardless if they actually have a business, or are just selling old items to get rid of clutter
sl8
(16,245 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,583 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 18, 2022, 08:08 PM - Edit history (1)
I'm certainly no tax expert, but from what I understand, you either need a receipt for the purchase or a reliable source that shows the market value of the item at the time you bought it.
Otherwise, you're just making up numbers.
Deuxcents
(19,695 posts)Could you write that off your taxes? Im always asked if I want a receipt..
Paper Roses
(7,505 posts)bucolic_frolic
(46,973 posts)The actual reporting now is not that big a deal. Schedule C, and keep a profit and loss spreadsheet and business expenses. Spreadsheets and methods can be learned in a day or two and are free online.
It's the itemized reporting that makes no sense to me. Why does the IRS need to know? Why would they care? A 1099 generates a number, you work off that. Items without receipts are considered to have zero basis, because original cost can't be proven.
As for your table ... there are companies that will clean out houses or parts thereof. If it's mid-century colonial it could have value as collectible. At auction. Which is its own nightmare.
intrepidity
(7,891 posts)So, you bought something two decades ago, didn't keep a receipt because you're not a hoarder, sell it now (at a huge loss usually), but now you are liable for tax on the total sale price?
Yeah, that seems fair.
bucolic_frolic
(46,973 posts)It could be curbside pickup, thrift store find, or full retail in 1980. Each is a different number that can't be proven without receipts.
intrepidity
(7,891 posts)because of course they do. Oh, unless you're TFG, in which case, whatever.
No wonder. Just, no wonder.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(26,727 posts)That would fly under the IRS's radar.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)they decide to make an issue of it.
My guess is the wont make an issue unless its obvious you turned a significant profit and its a side business, rather than just getting rid of some junk.
MichMan
(13,160 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)progree
(11,463 posts)just like if I bought stock for $1,000 and sold it for $1,500. The $500 would be taxed at the capital gains tax rate. No Medicare or SS (FICA) tax on it.
But driving an Uber would be taxed like wage income (income net of expenses) - taxed at the ordinary tax rate and subject to the FICA taxes.
But I dunno.
sl8
(16,245 posts)(The link is much better formatted than my copy and paste)
From payment card transactions (e.g., debit, credit, or stored-value cards), and/or
In settlement of third-party payment network transactions above the minimum reporting thresholds as follows:
For returns for calendar years prior to 2022:
Gross payments that exceed $20,000, AND
More than 200 such transactions
For returns for calendar years after 2021:
Gross payments that exceed $600, AND
Any number of transactions
Note: For transactions made after March 11, 2021, The American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 clarifies Form 1099-K reporting by third-party settlement organizations applies only for transactions for the provision of goods or services settled through a third-party payment network.
What does my Form 1099-K report to me?
Form 1099-K includes the gross amount of all reportable payment transactions. You will receive a Form 1099-K from each payment settlement entity from which you received payments in settlement of reportable payment transactions. A reportable payment transaction is defined as a payment card transaction or a third-party network transaction.
Payment card transaction means any transaction in which a payment card, or any account number or other identifying data associated with a payment card, is accepted as payment.
Third party network transaction means any transaction that is settled through a third-party payment network, but only after the total amount of such transactions exceeds the minimum reporting thresholds.
The gross amount of a reportable payment does not include any adjustments for credits, cash equivalents, discount amounts, fees, refunded amounts, or any other amounts. The dollar amount of each transaction is determined on the date of the transaction.
NOTE: The minimum reporting thresholds apply only to payments settled through a third-party network; there is no threshold for payment card transactions.
What should I do with this information?
It is important that your business books and records reflect your business income, including any amounts that may be reported on Form 1099-K. You must report on your income tax return all income you receive from your business. In most cases, your business income will be in the form of cash, checks, and debit/credit card payments. Business income is generally referred to as gross receipts on income tax returns. Therefore, you should consider the amounts shown on Form 1099-K, along with all other amounts received, when calculating gross receipts for your income tax return.
In addition --
Check your payment card receipt records and merchant statements to confirm that the amount on your Form 1099-K is accurate
Review your records to ensure your gross receipts are accurate and reported correctly on your income tax return
Determine whether you have reported income from all forms of payment received, including cash, checks, and debit, credit, and stored-value card transactions
Maintain documentation to support both the income and deductions you report on your income tax return
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