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OAITW r.2.0

(28,656 posts)
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 07:57 PM Dec 2023

A US map on how we heat, as a nation. Pretty interesting.

Why isn't the South pro-solar? If heat is derived from electricity, that's got be pretty expensive. Cheap residential solar should be an option.

https://www.maps.com/home-heating-fuels/

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A US map on how we heat, as a nation. Pretty interesting. (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 OP
The south is heating their homes with electric heaters swong19104 Dec 2023 #1
Wood is the worst? Red Mountain Dec 2023 #2
Several reasons: swong19104 Dec 2023 #4
That's not how wood heat works bello Dec 2023 #6
A have a wood stove with a catalytic onverter. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #8
Southern homes use electric heat because the equipment is cheap, simple, and safe localroger Dec 2023 #3
All the more reason to put on solar panels in your roof and store the excess energy. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #5
I live in the south, and I can tell you why southerners as a culture are against solar BComplex Dec 2023 #7
Without any evidence to back my assertion..... OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #9
Looks that way in most conversations... BComplex Dec 2023 #10

swong19104

(345 posts)
1. The south is heating their homes with electric heaters
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 09:44 PM
Dec 2023

which aren't the most efficient. Yes, they can do better by having roof-top solar, even on apartments (which doesn't directly benefit the apartment owner, who may be responsible for the maintenance and repair on the panels).

Wood is probably the worst option for heating.

swong19104

(345 posts)
4. Several reasons:
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 09:58 PM
Dec 2023

Not efficient (you can't burn wood at a very high temperature, unlike gas/propane; at least not in a typical fireplace with chimney)
Lots of pollutants and particulate matter
Limited locations within a home to use wood heating
Fire hazard

bello

(135 posts)
6. That's not how wood heat works
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 11:06 PM
Dec 2023

I know a fair number of folks that heat with wood. NONE of them use a “fireplace with chimney.”

The modern EPA approved wood stove has made great strides in cleaning up the burning of firewood.

UL approved wood stoves are very safe.

You only need one location in your house for a wood stove in most cases.

All of that is not to say that even modern wood stoves aren’t subject to mis-use due to operator training, maintenance and installation. It’s probably not a good choice for most modern Americans.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,656 posts)
8. A have a wood stove with a catalytic onverter.
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 11:13 PM
Dec 2023

Last edited Wed Dec 27, 2023, 01:06 AM - Edit history (1)

Reburns the gases before they go up the stack. Bet my carbon footprint for Full winter wood burn is less than the 1500 gals of oil I spend to keep the house base and heat the water.

localroger

(3,719 posts)
3. Southern homes use electric heat because the equipment is cheap, simple, and safe
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 09:57 PM
Dec 2023

Efficiency isn't as big a deal when the temperature rarely dips below freezing. Electric heaters have one moving part, the fan, which in a central system is shared with the more complicated and important A/C. There are no pilot lights, no danger of explosion, no need for a second source of power, and the danger of fire is minimal. They do not degrade over time or have circulating fluids to maintain or leak. My house was built in 1974 as part of an all-electric subdivision so natural gas isn't even available and there's no room to install a propane tank. A heat pump might save me a hundred bucks or so a year on the electric bill but would cost a lot more than that to install and maintain. This is in Louisiana and the situation is a little less clear toward the middle of the country, and I think other systems are getting some traction there. But my only real complaint is that I can't get a tankless water heater because the electric ones are garbage and there's no gas service to my subdivision.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,656 posts)
5. All the more reason to put on solar panels in your roof and store the excess energy.
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 10:04 PM
Dec 2023

I get that means a lot of dumping into the grid. Up in Maine, on the 45th parallel, I dump an average of 500Kw a month on the grid. For that privilage, I pay $20.00/mo.

BComplex

(9,154 posts)
7. I live in the south, and I can tell you why southerners as a culture are against solar
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 11:07 PM
Dec 2023

power: it is because they are told by the authoritarians that it's not in their interest, and there is the fear that if you don't listen to the authorities (i.e., authoritarians), that somehow you don't love Jesus.

Truth is, you can't reason with republican thought processes. Their brains don't work properly.

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