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OKIsItJustMe

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Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:52 PM Oct 25

Reuters: US power system becomes more fossil-dependent than China's

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-power-system-becomes-more-fossil-dependent-than-chinas-maguire-2024-10-25/
US power system becomes more fossil-dependent than China's
By Gavin Maguire
October 25, 2024 1:13 PM EDT

Commentary
By Gavin Maguire

LITTLETON, Colorado, Oct 25 (Reuters) - Utilities in the United States have relied on fossil fuels to generate a larger share of electricity than their counterparts in China since June, seriously undermining U.S. claims to be a leader in energy transition efforts.

U.S. utilities have relied on fossil fuels to generate an average of 62.4% of total electricity production for the past four months, according to data from energy think tank Ember.

That fossil fuel share exceeds the 60.5% over the same period in China, the world's largest power producer and polluter.


China vs USA share of electricity generation from clean & fossil fuels

The high U.S. fossil dependence came during the summer when domestic power demand is highest due to air conditioner use, while China's relatively lower fossil reliance has occurred during a protracted economic slowdown.

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Reuters: US power system becomes more fossil-dependent than China's (Original Post) OKIsItJustMe Oct 25 OP
Everything coming from China is a lie. Basso8vb Oct 25 #1
Yeah, so we don't have to do anything OKIsItJustMe Oct 25 #2
Projection Caribbeans Oct 25 #3
A deceptive statistic in at least two wayss FBaggins Oct 25 #4
NPR: Natural gas can rival coal's climate-warming potential when leaks are counted OKIsItJustMe Oct 25 #5
China is rapidly taking global renewable capacity expansion to another level OKIsItJustMe Oct 25 #6

OKIsItJustMe

(20,869 posts)
2. Yeah, so we don't have to do anything
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 03:21 PM
Oct 25

God knows, all of the products we’re importing are fake. You know… consumer electronics, solar panels, wind turbines… They’re probably all fake.

FBaggins

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4. A deceptive statistic in at least two wayss
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 06:14 PM
Oct 25

Lumps all fossil fuels together when the US has shifted fairly dramatically away from coal and into natural gas

Proportion of energy generation isn't really relevant when total fossil fuel consumption is up dramatically


Combine the two and US coal consumption in the last 25 years or so has been cut in half while China's coal consumption as tripled.

OKIsItJustMe

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5. NPR: Natural gas can rival coal's climate-warming potential when leaks are counted
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 08:15 PM
Oct 25
https://www.npr.org/2023/07/14/1187648553/natural-gas-can-rival-coals-climate-warming-potential-when-leaks-are-counted
Natural gas can rival coal's climate-warming potential when leaks are counted

JULY 14, 20232:21 PM ET


The natural gas production and supply system leaks the powerful greenhouse gas methane during drilling, fracking, processing and transport.
Meredith Miotke for NPR

Natural gas has long been considered a more climate-friendly alternative to coal, as gas-fired power plants generally release less carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than their coal-fired counterparts. But a new study finds that when the full impact of the industry is taken into account, natural gas could contribute as much as coal to climate change.

Natural gas is primarily composed of methane, a potent greenhouse gas. A new peer-reviewed analysis in the journal Environmental Research Letters finds that when even small amounts of methane escape from natural gas wells, production facilities and pipelines, it can drive up the industry's emissions to equal the effects of coal.

Recent studies have found much higher rates of leakage from natural gas infrastructure than previously known. Researchers wanted to understand the impact of those leaks.

"This analysis compares gas and coal at varying methane leakage rates. We find that very small methane leakage rates from gas systems rival coal's greenhouse gas emissions," said Deborah Gordon, co-author of the analysis and a senior principal at the environmental group RMI, formerly Rocky Mountain Institute. Scientists from NASA, Harvard University and Duke University also contributed to the paper.

OKIsItJustMe

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6. China is rapidly taking global renewable capacity expansion to another level
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 08:41 PM
Oct 25
https://www.iea.org/reports/renewables-2024/electricity#abstract

China is rapidly taking global renewable capacity expansion to another level

Over 2024-2030, China is expected to install 3 207 GW of new renewable electricity capacity, more than tripling growth of 2017-2023. Since 2015, China’s share in global annual capacity additions has been increasing and is expected to reach almost 60% in 2030. At the end of the forecast period, the country is expected to have at least half of the world’s cumulative renewable electricity capacity, doubling its share of the last decade. The Chinese government’s Net Zero by 2060 target, supported by incentives under the 14th Five-Year Plan (2021-2025), and the ample availability of locally manufactured equipment and low-cost financing, stimulate the country’s renewable power expansion over the forecast period.

The European Union remains the second-largest growth market after China, with annual additions continuing to increase through 2030 at a faster pace than before. Member countries recently submitted their draft national plans to achieve the new overall EU target. For renewable electricity, their ambitions are in line with the overall EU goal, but they lack ambition for other sectors, including transport, industry and buildings. Renewable energy auctions, corporate PPAs and incentives stimulating distributed solar PV will continue to spur capacity growth in the next six years, doubling the bloc’s previous achievements.

https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/renewable-electricity-capacity-growth-by-country-region-main-case-2017-2030


China already has more renewables than the USofA will have in 2030.
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