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[still_one]

1. GM has lost 1 BILLION dollars since trump started the trade wars. That is a big part of this. The

other part is they are shifting models because of consumer trends.

GM has said they are committed to clean energy vehicles, and plan to use the Volt/Bolt technologies in other models which I believe some will be released in 2020 models

GM is doing what they need to do to survive.

[linuxuser3]

4. Re: shifting models because of consumer trends

Yeah I heard on the news today their customers are buying more trucks & SUVs than EVs. Which is ironic, as, well, the trucks would cost less because made of less steel than the SUVs, so I guess that part makes sense. But his idiotic steel tariff is not doing the car industry here any favors.

I jokingly said today maybe Trump could ask GM to send the layoffs to Mexico

[still_one]

7. yup, it is the steel tariff that is hurting them the most

[Quemado]

2. I've been following the EV market for a few years

In my situation, an EV won't be practical until there is a huge development in battery technology that would enable an EV to travel 500 miles on a single charge; a 0-100% charge could be done in less than 10 minutes; and EV chargers are much more common than they are now.

[Wellstone ruled]

3. Same for us,

without the 500 + range,it makes zero sense for us to own one. Here in the Valley,we deal with the 2-3 year life span on traditional Car Batteries because of the heat. And the EV's here are having issues with battery lifespan plus the Tire wear is double because of extra battery weight.

Neighbors Nissan is only a 100 miler during the Summer, and they have had to do new tires at two years as well as at least on Battery swap out. Believe this is a three year old car.

[linuxuser3]

6. Re: Same for us,

That's the other advantage super-caps or the polymer tech in the Youtube video would impart to EVs: A large cost-savings on vehicle weights. The majority of the weight in current EVs is the batteries. I watched a Youtube video years ago, guys running a shop in So-Cal doing EV conversions on older cars. The guy converted an old 1970s era VW Beetle into an EV. To do it he used deep cycle lead-acid batteries, and they added so much weight to the Beetle he had to reinforce the suspension and shocks on the car because the additional weight was more than the weight of the car filled with adult passengers. So the ride height of the car had to be higher just in order to support the weight of the batteries. The ridiculous thing about the conversion was the charge distance of the car dropped from around 300 miles on gasoline to about 150 on electricity. Also now the car took hours to charge up instead of minutes filling up at a gas station. So storage of electrons is the biggest problem in EVs these days. The breakthrough is going to come in the inventors/discoverers who solve the rapid electron storage/large charge capacity dilemma. From that point, vehicle charges that take minutes and "fill ups" that last for 500 miles on a charge might become common. If we can get that tech worked out, EV car weights drop possibly as much as 1,000 pounds at the same time, and tire life goes up radically. We're almost there, I hope

[Wellstone ruled]

8. My guess is,

there is going to be a shake out period or we might be in it. Bosch seems to have something going with VW and BMW. Major ramp up where ever they do their USA new SUV with a China market focus.

[linuxuser3]

5. Re: I've been following the EV market

It's gonna take either graphene super-capacitor tech/advancement or a discovery like this

to achieve what you describe. I believe in the next decade we'll get a breakthrough that allows for rapid recharging and at least parity with gasoline/diesel passenger vehicle traveling distances in EVs. Just not now. That kind of breakthrough is also going to completely disrupt/revolutionize power storage/use for homeowners as well as utilities. I think we're on the verge of such a breakthrough, can't wait till it happens

[linuxuser3]

9. There's also tech like this coming