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The attacks took place on Wednesday evening in Sarona Market and on Ha’arba’a Street, in the centre of the city. One of those wounded was in a critical condition.
Mickey Rosenfeld, a spokesman for the Israeli Police, wrote on Twitter: "3 people killed in shooting attack. No further terrorists in the area. 2 terrorists captured".
He had earlier reported that the area was closed off following the attacks, with shops and the food mall evacuated.
The terrorists were from Hebron, reports have indicated.
http://www.thejc.com/news/world-news/159084/terrorists-dressed-orthodox-jews-tel-aviv-shooting-rampage
WARNING graphic: Footage of the terror attack
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That's life over here 6chars......welcome to the middle east , so where do you think its safer today ....here , Europe , America ????
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(4,306 posts)Published on Jun 8, 2016
Israeli security forces carry out a raid in the West Bank hometown of two Palestinian terrorists who carried out a shooting attack in Tel Aviv's Sarona Market on June 8, 2016. (Credit: IDF Spokesperson's Unit)
Israeli
(4,306 posts)Permits for 83,000 Palestinians for visits from the West Bank to Israel have been revoked, including permits of 204 relatives of one of the terrorists.
AFP
Published: 06.09.16, 10:11 / Israel News
Israel said Thursday it had suspended entry permits for 83,000 Palestinians during the holy Muslim month of Ramadan after two Palestinian terrorists killed four Israelis and wounded 16 others in Tel Aviv.
"All permits for Ramadan, especially permits for family visits from Judea and Samaria to Israel, are frozen," said a statement from COGAT, the unit which manages civilian affairs in the West Bank.
It said that 83,000 Palestinians would be affected, adding that hundreds of residents of the Gaza Strip who had received permits to visit relatives and holy sites during Ramadan would also have access frozen.
COGAT said it had frozen permits for 204 relatives of one of the terrorists, and the IDF is preventing Palestinians from leaving and entering the West Bank village of Yatta, home to the attackers.
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4813955,00.html
Response to Israeli (Reply #18)
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Israeli
(4,306 posts)re : " Please, Israeli, tell me you think the attack yesterday is a bad thing. "
....you do realize that not only does my daughter , husband and child live in Tel Aviv so do many other family members and friends ........could have been anyone of them .
Not only that 6chars, after living almost 66 years here I have lost many loved ones to our wars and terror attacks .
So the answer to your insulting question would be ........yes .
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Israeli
(4,306 posts)re : " The response that fails to show sympathy for the obvious suffering caused by terrorism is just hard to understand. "
Do me a favor and read here :
http://www.theparentscircle.com/
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Israeli
(4,306 posts)....tell me did you read Personal Stories ?
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Meet the People and the Stories Behind The Parents Circle - Families Forum
http://www.theparentscircle.com/Content.aspx?ID=38#.V12QTtR95kg
Shame that Ngo Monitor feels the need to politicize grief .....its the last thing those that created Parents Circle Families Forum wanted to .
Israeli
(4,306 posts)....here is my response to you ....
Violence is the strongest imperative to keep fighting for peace
With no peace process on the horizon, the terrorist attack in Tel Aviv this week is a reminder that we don’t have the luxury of giving up on a future in which Palestinians and Israelis alike can feel secure in their own homes, streets and cafes.
Almost six years ago, Hillary Clinton was getting ready to oversee the first face-to-face between Benjamin Netanyahu and Mahmoud Abbas in the Obama administration’s initial foray into Middle East peacemaking. Secretary of State Clinton’s road to just getting the two sides to sit down together had been long and hard, including extracting a nine-month settlement freeze from Netanyahu.
Three days before the sides were supposed to meet for the first time, however, Hamas carried out a terrorist attack that left four Israeli civilians dead. A day later, the militant Islamist group launched another attack, this time wounding two more civilians. Hamas made very clear, the point was to derail the peace talks.
After the first attack on August 31, 2010, I wrote that Hamas was becoming what conflict resolution practitioners call a spoiler group, in this case a stakeholder that has been excluded from a peace process and therefore tries to use violence to sabotage it. Despite the danger posed by Hamas, extremist Israeli settlers and other spoiler groups, I argued at the time that the prospects of peace were worth the danger posed by violent opposition to the process.
That was then. Fast-forward six years and there is no peace process in sight. There hasn’t been one for a long time, and despite the semblance of renewed movement expressed through the Paris summit and Netanyahu’s thus-far failed attempts to re-write the Arab Peace Initiative (API), there is nothing to indicate that the Israeli and Palestinian leadership will be sitting down to start mapping a negotiated settlement anytime soon. (Ben Caspit explains pretty succinctly why nobody should take Netanyahu’s API gesture seriously.)
Intellectually it is almost impossible to find hope in the current political stalemate. Given the choice between bringing the left-leaning, two-state supporting Labor Party into his government, Netanyahu instead chose to strengthen his existing coalition with hardliner Avigdor Liberman and annexationist Naftali Bennett, who has vowed to do everything in his power to prevent Palestinian statehood. Mahmoud Abbas, who the Israeli Left and much of the international community long ago ordained as the last partner for peace Israel will ever have, has lost whatever shreds of a democratic and popular mandate he has been grasping on to for the past few years.
Both societies are radicalizing, both support the use of violence against the other, and both fear violence from the other. Recent polls have indicated that more than half of Jewish Israelis support extra-judicial executions of terror suspects, and almost as many expressed support for the ethnic cleansing of Arabs from Israel. Among the Palestinian public, meanwhile, a recent poll found that over half of the population supports a return to an armed intifada in the absence of peace negotiations.
The current violence, the worst of which we saw this week in Tel Aviv’s Sarona Market, is not a carefully calculated attempt to derail a peace process; it is also not an excuse for despair. Violence is the strongest reason to keep working for peace, to keep fighting for peace, to keep hoping for peace. If we stop fighting for a future in which Palestinians and Israelis alike feel secure in their own homes, streets, cafes and city squares, then we are resigning ourselves to a future of senseless violence, wars, bombings, and desperate and polarized youth who see less and less humanity in each other with each passing year. If we stop fighting for peace, then we are resigning ourselves to another 49 years of military occupation and violence.
Source : http://972mag.com/violence-is-the-strongest-imperative-to-keep-fighting-for-peace/119943/
shira
(30,109 posts).....just incite more hatred & say they want Israel & Jewish apes and pigs gone every time they utter a word? Can you think of any genuinely peaceful overtures Hamas or the PLO have ever made? How about just one?
Any peaceful measures Israel takes is seen as a sign of weakness by Hamas and the PLO. So long as those totalitarian warmongers are in charge, peace won't happen anytime soon.
Israel pulled out of Lebanon in 2000 and then Gaza just 5 years later. Israel made those moves, exactly what the far Left wants Israel to do now with the W.Bank, but what resulted other than more war and hate? What makes you think pulling out of the W.Bank will result in peace? Where's your evidence?
....they are cousins from Yatta .
shira
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(30,109 posts)Two "terrorists" captured after Tel Aviv attack, Israeli police spokesman tweets.
https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/740640542971826176
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Little Tich
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(4,306 posts)http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4813930,00.html
Nor were they from Hebron .........they were from Yatta .
branford
(4,462 posts)They are terrorists who killed and wounded innocent civilians because they were Israeli to achieve political ends.
My sympathies and prayers are with the families of the dead and injured Israelis, and I will lose no sleep if the terrorists painfully succumb to their wounds or they rot and then die in prison many decades from today. Their clothing will soon be prison jumpsuits and their address small prison cells.
Further, all their violence achieved politically is to increase support for Netanyahu and other Israeli hardliners and opposition to any peace with, no less concessions to, the Palestinians, including the reported reversals of nearly all customary relaxing of security procedures usually extended during Ramadan such as expedited travel permits into Israel.
Israeli
(4,306 posts)..............they are never " immaterial to the event " .
But you are right with your last point ....
Further, all their violence achieved politically is to increase support for Netanyahu and other Israeli hardliners and opposition to any peace with, no less concessions to, the Palestinians, including the reported reversals of nearly all customary relaxing of security procedures usually extended during Ramadan such as expedited travel permits into Israel.
shira
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