REPORT ON PALESTINIAN CHILD TERRORISTS: CHILDREN WHO KILL AND THEIR ADULT ENABLERS

[shira]

The most recent wave of Palestinian terrorism that began in September 2015 – a wave of stabbings and knifings now being emulated in European cities – has a particularly grotesque feature: child terrorists.

Palestinian children who directly perpetrate acts of terrorism, including murder, violate the most fundamental of human rights: the right to life. The Palestinian adults who encourage Palestinian child terrorism violate one of the most fundamental rights of the child: the right not to take part in armed conflict or hostilities.

The Palestinian Authority has supported its claim that "Palestine" is ready for statehood, and responded to the UN General Assembly's formal recognition of "non-member observer state" status of the "State of Palestine," by formally acceding to international legal prohibitions on children in armed conflict.

In violation of those legal obligations there have been at least 36 separate terrorist attacks by Palestinian children...

http://www.humanrightsvoices.org/site/documents/?d=15368

Full Report at site.

[procon]

1. That site is promoting an anti-UN agenda and only has pro-Israeli viewpoints.

Real human rights groups have programs intended to ease the plight of children that are being exploited as child soldiers. I couldn't find anything on this group's website to indicate that they are engaged in anything more than disseminating the standard pro-Israeli propaganda.

Its not helpful to your agenda to try to portray desperate, impoverished children living under the most deplorably hopeless conditions of a life long military occupation, as 'terrorists' and 'killers'.

[shira]

4. Seems they report on things HRW & Amnesty deliberately ignore.

I'm not making things up either. They really do ignore this deplorable behavior by adults in the OPT...

HRW and Amnesty have refused to comment on this recent activity.

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Let me know if you find anything factually incorrect in the OP.

Its not helpful to your agenda to try to portray desperate, impoverished children living under the most deplorably hopeless conditions of a life long military occupation, as 'terrorists' and 'killers'.

The children are being criminally exploited by adults to murder random Israelis.

Desperate impoverished kids worldwide, no matter how abused or hopeless, do not automatically resort to murdering innocent men, women, and children who they dehumanize as pigs and apes who should all be killed.

This is not a natural reaction by kids anywhere else in the world. What's happening in the OPT is encouraged, praised, and rewarded by the adults in charge.

[procon]

8. What do you think of the conditions that make desperate children so vulnerable to exploitation?

If they lived in peaceful communities with enough water, food and energy to improve their lives, had the means to get an education, had hopes of a job, and having their family safe, would they be so hopeless and easy to manipulate?

No one believes the propaganda that portrays the Palestinians as the being solely to blame while painting Israelis as perfect angels. If the best defense you can find is to post yet another pro-Israeli web source without context and lacking any citation whatsoever, it does not lend any credence to your strategy.

[shira]

10. Desperate about what?

The Palestinians have been offered their own state multiple times. They're desperate to reject their own state in order to destroy the Jewish one.

What other desperate occupied people reject their own state multiple times? They've been offered nearly everything they have demanded over the years. Riddle me that one please.

I have an answer for that one that makes sense. You do not.

[procon]

12. You distribute a great deal of propaganda, but no serious discussion. nt

[shira]

13. I just asked you a serious question that we could discuss. You punted.

You make it appear as if Israel has never once had any intention to recognize a Palestinian state alongside the Jewish one in peace. Ergo, the "desperation and hopelessness" that leads to child-militants. But the fact is that Israel has offered to end the occupation, settlements, etc..... and recognize a Palestinian state.....well before there was an occupation and settlements (1937, 1948, 1965).

It's a hard sell you're making when you attempt to portray the Palestinians as a desperate people who have no other choice than to mass murder Jews. You make it appear as if 1967 is the basis for the I/P conflict when you know it's not.

What other desperate occupied people on the planet reject their own state multiple times because they want more than their own state (they want the destruction of the other country & mass murder of its people)?

Riddle us that one.

Seriously.

[procon]

15. Can you get past the indoctrination to even see how that might sound?

I despair, for you, for everyone, because the hate cannot end... not ever.

[shira]

16. So explain where I'm wrong. Discuss... n/t

[procon]

17. You cannot even allow yourself to be wrong, and that's at the very heart if the problem.

Sometimes it's bigger than just a simplistic right or wrong meme, it's more important than the past is prolog for everything, for ever more. You just can't make that step... maybe someday, but not now.

[shira]

18. Hmm, I think what you wrote is called psychological projection.

I have no problem admitting I'm wrong, BTW.

Or admitting that Israel isn't perfect and has made many mistakes, is still making big mistakes....

What I never really see is acknowledgment from my opponents that the Palestinians are wrong, that anti-Semitism plays a huge role in this conflict, that Israelis face serious terror threats....

[Nitram]

2. What about the endless expansion of illegal Israeli settlements?

Violating one of the most fundamental rights of Palestinians - the right to live wherever they want on their own land. A truly grotesque land grab.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

3. Semitophiles believe that everything is theirs.

They push this Palestinian=bad guys meme all the time.

They never mention that Israel acts like a terrorist state all the time.

[shira]

6. Semitophiles? That's a new one. Do you mean Zionists?

They push this Palestinian=bad guys meme all the time.

Adults who exploit children, making them into child soldiers are bad guys. What's there to argue about?

I take it you disagree?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

7. "Adults who exploit children...

Like this?

The West Bank is full of meatballs like this that arm themselves against the "enemy" whose land they have stolen.

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[shira]

11. My bad.

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Should have known better than to engage. I know your Israel-hating game all too well.

We're done.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

19. LOL. I just made you eat your own words.

[Nitram]

22. Provided with evidence that you are mistaken, you hurl a few insults and run away.

There's a name for people like you. Do you believe the photograph had been altered in any way?

[shira]

23. I have no interest in engaging with that one....

His gameplan is non-stop attacking, defaming, and sliming Israel at every opportunity possible. No discussion, just propaganda. To stink up & derail each and every thread implying Zionists and Israel are thieves, Nazi-like, etc.

Not playing that game.

But if you think Israelis are sending children out to fight in wars or to terrorize Palestinians - based on that photo supplied above - then Americans must be doing the same exact thing, right?

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/531213718517163438/?from_navigate=true

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

24. Keep up with the false narrative. LOL!

[ericson00]

27. there's a difference between showing someone

a gun, and encouraging him to actually use violence against people, or blow oneself up.

And yes, suicide terrorist IS more depraved and savage than other types because of the lack of accountability one can be held to when with the 72 virgins.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

29. LOL!

Excuse # 17.

[ericson00]

26. what the fuck is a "Semitophile?"

is it like a Muslimphile?

[shira]

5. So let me get this straight. Adults exploiting children & making them child soldiers....

....is nowhere near as bad as Jews building homes in Jerusalem?

Got it.

[procon]

9. The obvious connection should not go unnoticed, yeah? nt

[shira]

14. What connection? The mere presence of Jews drives good people...

....to want to murder them?

[Little Tich]

20. Human Rights Voices seems to be a hasbara factory.

It also seems to be the brainchild of one person. I think the OP expresses what Human Rights Voices is all about pretty well, but it's not fact-based enough to have a discussion about.

Sorry.

[shira]

21. What do you think about the video from this week that HRW & Amnesty are ignoring?

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HRW and Amnesty refuse to comment on this, pretending it hasn't happened for some reason.

Why do you think some Human Rights organizations ignore incidents like these as well as Palestinian child-terrorists enabled by adults?

For example...

10,000 Palestinian teens graduate Hamas terror camp
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4619982,00.html

I can understand why Gideon Levy & degenerates at Mondoweiss would want to ignore this. They're apologists for terror who support, encourage, and incite violent, deadly attacks against innocents. But what about HRW, Amnesty, etc..? What's their story?

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Now back to the OP....here's an article from Mondoweiss about Palestinian teen-terrorists who were 13 and 15 years old. The author of course defends the teens, doesn't condemn what they did & certainly doesn't care that they're children. In fact, the author wrote of these kids: [font color = "blue"] "What do they have to lose, when their future that the Israelis and the international community plan for them is not theirs? The path of the revolt, even difficult, will be their own." [/font]

Pretty classy, right?

So let's not pretend the OP isn't true. Let's discuss this phenomenon.

[Little Tich]

25. I think the guy in the clip is an idiot, and I wouldn't vote for him if I ever got the chance, but

apart from that, there's not much to add.

I think that there is no link between the idiot and HRW/Amnesty/Hamas terror teen camps.

[Little Tich]

28. Apparently, the PLO has posted a clip where the father justifies his actions.

I'm not in the least interested in that idiot - he lost my sympathy when he taught his son to hate. Maybe the clip is of some interest to you - Mondoweiss has already written an article about it. (http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/palestinians-dehumanize-palestinian/)

[shira]

30. I'm assuming like other NGO's who don't care about this child abuse....

...that you don't think it's a big deal when Palestinian adults deliberately put little kids in harm's way (child militants, human shields, etc.)?

[Little Tich]

32. I think it's really difficult to link the clip to child militants and human shields.

But the issue of the abuse of Palestinian children is much bigger than the alleged use of child militants and human shields. The occupation is the main culprit IMHO, as it affects children very negatively in various ways, whether it's in Gaza, The west Bank or East Jerusalem.

[shira]

33. Right, Palestinian child abuse like in that video isn't a big deal.

I've come to expect that from the BDS crowd which IMHO supports what's in that video so long as Israel takes the blame when children get hurt or killed. Part of the anti-Israel cause....

[aranthus]

31. Typical Mondoweiss BS

They say that the father describes himself as a refugee from the 1948 Nakba. If that were true, then he'd be in his late 60's or early 70's. So why do these people have to lie all the time?

[shira]

34. The anti-Israel cause is an entire industry of lies. n/t