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Uncle Joe

(60,149 posts)
Tue May 9, 2023, 10:02 AM May 2023

Israel Kills 13, Including Women & Children, in Airstrikes Targeting Militant Leaders in Gaza



Israel launched surprise airstrikes in Gaza overnight, targeting three commanders of the Islamic Jihad militant group, who were assassinated in their homes. The attacks killed a total of 13 people, including the wives and children of the men. The Israeli attack broke a ceasefire that had been reached last week after a spike in violence following the death of Palestinian prisoner Khader Adnan in Israeli custody. “As the occupying power, Israel has the obligation to protect the civilian population,” says Phyllis Bennis, author and fellow at the Institute for Policy Studies. “Instead, we’re seeing the expansion of an apartheid regime, and one which is prepared to use violence at extraordinary levels without a moment’s hesitation.”
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Israel Kills 13, Including Women & Children, in Airstrikes Targeting Militant Leaders in Gaza (Original Post) Uncle Joe May 2023 OP
I have a real problem with Phylis Bennis' statement Beastly Boy May 2023 #1
What about the other 10 including sleeping women and children? Uncle Joe May 2023 #2
Articles 28 and 29 of the 4th Geneva Convention. I quoted them in the previous post. Beastly Boy May 2023 #3
This is horrible. Goddessartist May 2023 #4
Jordan killed a drug dealer Mosby May 2023 #5
Thats a pathetic response Israeli May 2023 #6
we all knew after the last elections Israeli May 2023 #7
See . Israeli May 2023 #8

Beastly Boy

(11,147 posts)
1. I have a real problem with Phylis Bennis' statement
Tue May 9, 2023, 11:50 AM
May 2023
“As the occupying power, Israel has the obligation to protect the civilian population,” says Phyllis Bennis, author and fellow at the Institute for Policy Studies. “Instead, we’re seeing the expansion of an apartheid regime, and one which is prepared to use violence at extraordinary levels without a moment’s hesitation.”

It is both false and prejudicious.

ART. 5. of the Fourth Geneva Convention states:
— Where, in the territory of a Party to the conflict, the latter is satisfied that an individual protected person is definitely suspected of or engaged in activities hostile to the security of the State, such individual person shall not be entitled to claim such rights and privileges under the present Convention as would, if exercised in the favour of such individual person, be prejudicial to the security of such State

This clearly strips the three PIJ operatives killed in the raid of any protections by Israel. and makes them fair targets.

ART. 28. an 29 of the Convention state
ART. 28. — The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.
ART. 29. — The Party to the conflict in whose hands protected persons may be, is responsible for the treatment accorded to them by its agents, irrespective of any individual responsibility which may be incurred

This clearly places the responsibility to protect on PIJ, which they, not Israel, failed to do.

And her "Instead, we’re seeing the expansion of an apartheid regime, and one which is prepared to use violence at extraordinary levels without a moment’s hesitation.” is delusional and borderline antisemitic on its face, especially considering how far apart it is from the topics she is commenting on.

Uncle Joe

(60,149 posts)
2. What about the other 10 including sleeping women and children?
Tue May 9, 2023, 11:55 AM
May 2023

I believe that's what she is referring to.

Beastly Boy

(11,147 posts)
3. Articles 28 and 29 of the 4th Geneva Convention. I quoted them in the previous post.
Tue May 9, 2023, 11:59 AM
May 2023

The articles place full responsibility for their deaths on PIJ, not Israel.

Israeli

(4,300 posts)
7. we all knew after the last elections
Wed May 10, 2023, 05:43 AM
May 2023

that this was inevitable .

Ben-Gvir threatened to quit the coalition unless :

Ben-Gvir threatens to quit Israeli government over response to Gaza rockets

Otzma Yehudit to boycott Knesset votes as tensions with Likud heat up • Likud: If Netanyahu's decisions are unacceptable to Ben-Gvir, he can leave gov't

The Otzma Yehudit Party will boycott Knesset votes until Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu implements a “fully right-wing policy” and enables its minister to influence the state’s national security policy, National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir said Wednesday.

“If the prime minister does not want a right-wing government, he is welcome to fire me,” he said in a press statement while in Sderot. “We will not attend votes in the Knesset until the prime minister internalizes and understands that we want a fully right-wing government, and that we are an inseparable part of the discussions and part of the implementation of the Israeli government’s security policy.”

Ben-Gvir’s remarks indicate a spiraling rift in the coalition between Otzma Yehudit and the Likud. Tension began to rise on Tuesday, when Ben-Gvir demanded to attend the prime minister’s security situation assessment after dozens of rockets were fired from Gaza, but he was not invited.

continued @ :

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-741935

They have been stirring up shit everywhere and anywhere just to get a responce from Hamas .
Then they can go in full force .
Bibi is loosing in the polls he needs this .

Israeli

(4,300 posts)
8. See .
Wed May 17, 2023, 03:16 AM
May 2023
Bibi is loosing in the polls he needs this .


Works like magic every time ......

Netanyahu’s poll numbers bounce back after Gaza campaign, surveys show

Prime minister pulls back in front of Gantz as most suitable for job, and Likud party — but not coalition — sees boost after sinking for weeks amid judicial overhaul protests

By TOI STAFF
15 May 2023

Israel’s five-day offensive in the Gaza Strip has reversed weeks of slipping popularity ratings for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his Likud party, a series of lightning polls indicated Sunday.

Surveys released Sunday evening by Channel 12 news, Channel 13 news and the Kan public broadcaster showed Likud faring better than in a string of recent polls, although the party and its current coalition partners would still fall short of the support needed to form a government were an election held today, according to the surveys.

Ref : https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-poll-numbers-bounce-back-after-gaza-campaign-surveys-show/


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