'We are at war,' Netanyahu declares after surprise attack on Israel by Hamas

[Eugene]

Earlier DU thread: Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel as Palestinian gunmen reported in south

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Source: Politico

‘We are at war,’ Netanyahu declares after surprise attack on Israel by Hamas

BY GABRIEL GAVIN AND HANS VON DER BURCHARD
OCTOBER 7, 2023 9:43 AM CET
3 MINUTES READ

Israel was struck by a surprise attack by Hamas early Saturday morning in one of the most serious escalations in years between Israel and the Islamist militant group. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared the country was “at war.”

Israel launched retaliatory air strikes on targets in Gaza.

The massive assault by Hamas combined a barrage of rockets fired from the Gaza Strip into Israel and dozens of heavily armed gunmen attacking the country’s south from Gaza. At least 22 Israelis have been killed in the attack with more than 250 wounded, Israel’s ambulance service said, according to media reports. The toll was expected to rise.

“We are at war, and we will win,” Netanyahu said in a message to Israelis.

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Read more: https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-palestina-gaza-air-and-ground-attack-by-hamas/

[Quakerfriend]

1. This is awful! But, I can't help but think that this is

what Netanyahu wants.

Could it be that he is creating chaos to better tighten his grip on the people of Israel???

[JohnSJ]

2. NO. This was a planned attack by Hamas. It is exactly as it appears.

[Israeli]

16. One of the captured

terrorists told his interrogators yesterday that the attack had
been planned over a year ago together with Hezbullah .

[MOMFUDSKI]

3. Pretty much what happened here

with 9/11. Know your history and how the real world works.

[Israeli]

15. No

Its the last thing Bibi needed .

Where were all the troops is what everyone is asking .
Why were they not guarding the borders .

They were all guarding the settlers in the West Bank !!!!

Once things return to normal it is Bibi who will have to answer to the people .

[sabbat hunter]

18. Hopefully

he will have to resign in disgrace, along with the defense minister.

[Israeli]

19. breaking news ....

Education Minister says government responsible for tragedy

Education Minister Yoav Kisch said on Thursday that he as a member of the government shares in the responsibility for the tragic events since Saturday's murderous Hamas attack. Speaking to Ynet Kisch said the families impacted, must be heard. He was the first member of the government to assume responsibility for the events. (Moran Azulay, Sharon Kidon, Nir Cohen)

Source : https://www.ynetnews.com/category/3089#bkupjfsb6

[sabbat hunter]

20. Is he

Going to resign his seat?

[Israeli]

21. Apologies for late response

I dont know and I dont care
ive been to busy helping to absorb kibbutz families from the
south and north to ours which is relatively safer although none of us are safe anymore
and attend funerals for my sons fallen comrades in his name because he cant... to pay attention to
politics .

So all I can respond with is at least Yoav Kisch was honest

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-12/ty-article/israels-government-will-be-held-accountable-for-hamas-attack-education-minister-says/0000018b-2407-dd34-afdf-f587246d0000

[Israeli]

22. Every time he opens his mouth

he makes it worse .

Netanyahu slammed for post blaming intelligence chiefs for Oct. 7 failure; apologizes

Ref : https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-sharply-criticized-for-post-blaming-intelligence-chiefs-for-oct-7-failur

PM deletes tweet hours later, then apologizes and says he fully backs security chiefs, after Gantz upbraids him: ‘When we are at war, leadership must display responsibility’

When this is over we are going to chew him up and spit him out .

[sabbat hunter]

23. If I am not mistaken

the next election does not have to be called until October 2026. Will Bibi's coalition last until then? Or will he have to call early elections. IMHO the sooner elections are called the better chances are that he will be defeated.

[Israeli]

24. Bibi's coalition is already over .

The only reason he is still in power is that Benny Gantz has stepped up and taken control of the
security situation . ...........somebody had to .

Poll Finds Right-wing Israelis Trust Military Commanders Over Netanyahu for Wartime Decisions

The poll also reviewed public opinion on a possible release of Palestinian prisoners in return for the release of the Israeli hostages held by Hamas as well as the preferred timing for a public probe into Oct. 7 failures

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-31/ty-article/.premium/poll-finds-right-wing-israelis-trust-military-commanders-over-netanyahu/0000018b-8646-df47-a3df-fe4fbef00000

Are you listening to his speeches since this all started ?
Its all biblical references and Sodom and Gomorrah !!!!
He and his family are secular .
He is pandering to our religious right wing fanatics and to the American christian evangelists .
He should have resigned already in shame .
his goose is cooked .....

Netanyahu, self-styled peerless leader, refuses to accept he presided over catastrophe

The dissonance between the PM’s self-image as uniquely capable of protecting Israel, and the worst disaster in our history – on his watch – has completely shattered his equilibrium

Ref : https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-self-styled-peerless-leader-refuses-to-accept-he-presided-over-catastrophe/

[sabbat hunter]

25. I thought that

Benny Gantz joined the existing cabinet, as part of an emergency wartime extension, but that Bibi's far right wing coalition members were still a part of the 'outer cabinet'. Obviously you would know far more about this than me, so I am glad to be corrected on this.

[Israeli]

26. They are still there in name only

and each and every one of them knows that .

Dont believe Bibis bullshit that we are one nation united , never have been never will be .

The biggest divide in Israeli society is between the religious and the secular .

Times of war you would think it would stop ......or so Bibi would love you to believe .

So now a personal story .

Everyone is trying to do what they can , absorb refuges from the north or south , donate what they can to those left homeless etc etc etc .
My daughters husband owns a restaurant in Tel Aviv , together with others they decided to cook and feed the reservists because there was not enough infrastructure in place .
Hundreds of volunteers cooking , boxing ,delivering .
One out of every three truckloads per day was stopped and told to turn around because the food wasnt kosher !!!!
The majority of the reservists aren't kosher either

[Israeli]

27. This might help you understand

where we are politically right now :

Gaza-area mayor quits Likud on live TV, citing government failures

Tamir Idan of the Sdot Negev Regional Council calls on Likud Central Committee members to also leave the party

A municipal leader in southern Israel resigned from the ruling Likud party on live TV on Wednesday, saying he was doing so over the lack of long-promised governmental assistance for residents of the area.

Tamir Idan is the head of the Sdot Negev Regional Council, which abuts the Gaza Strip and surrounds the town of Netivot and includes 16 small communities such as Alumim, Kfar Maimon, Shuva, Shokeda and more.

Idan made the announcement on Channel 12, calling on other Likud members to do the same.

“I announce my resignation from the Likud party, and I place the blame on the Israeli government. I call here on all my friends, members of the Likud Central Committee, to take a similar step, in view of this incredible failure,” Idan said, reading from his resignation letter, which he said he would send to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The October 7 surprise cross-border assault by Hamas, which terrorized Gaza-adjacent communities and caught Israeli security forces unprepared, resulted in 1,400 Israeli deaths and some 240 citizens taken hostage. Israel declared war on Hamas the same evening, began a bombing campaign on Hamas and engaged in a massive call-up of reserve IDF forces. Recent days have seen troops enter Gaza and fight against the terror group on the ground.
Locales bordering Gaza and Lebanon, including small cities like Sderot and Kiryat Shemona, have been mostly evacuated, resulting in some 250,000 internally displaced citizens.

The government has been pilloried by evacuees who say that beyond the staggering security failure that led to the attack, it has not done enough to support the devastated communities since, both financially and socially.

During his interview Idan stressed that local government was doing all it could to help residents, many of whom have been evacuated from the area due to Home Front Command directives.

Temporary housing and other necessities had so far been provided from private donations and organizations, he said, but that money was running out, and despite his efforts to speak with numerous government officials and receiving promises of forthcoming aid, direct government assistance had yet to materialize.

Idan said not all residents in his area have been evacuated, but those that remain are living under the shadow of war and rocket fire. “The Israeli government just doesn’t understand the situation,” he said.

Idan had spoken with members of the Likud party, of which he is a long-time member, who had promised that aid would be forthcoming, and said he had been “certain” that this would happen, but it did not.

“Nothing happened,” he said, adding that he was finding himself unable to respond to all the personal messages he was receiving from residents asking for help.

The government’s intelligence failure in regards to preventing the Hamas assault, the slow response in providing aid and Netanyahu’s unwillingness to publicly take personal responsibility or blame for the sequence of events have left many Israelis bitter and angry at the government and the prime minister specifically.

Idan’s resignation comes several weeks into the war, at a time when some voices have begun calling for Netanyahu to resign his position. A recent political firestorm saw the prime minister tweet and then delete a post blaming Israeli intelligence services for the failure to anticipate the Hamas attack.

Source : https://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-area-mayor-quits-likud-on-live-tv-citing-government-failures/

[sabbat hunter]

28. deleted post

deleted post.

[FalloutShelter]

4. BTW... just heard a General on MSNBC

Tell Katie Phang that normally the US would have a top American General in Israel to help out in such a situation.
We don’t have one there… guess why?
… wait for it… because of the hold on promotions by Tommy Tubberville.
Iran is backing Hammas… Putin backs Iran…
Holds on US military promotions… do the math.

[toesonthenose]

8. What would a "top American General" be able to do anyway?

There aren't US troops there to direct or activate. An American General would not have any ability to help bolster the Israeli response.

[toesonthenose]

12. Wrong. 170K active US service members stationed in Israel. Completely false.

[FalloutShelter]

14. You are correct.

Misinterpreted another post. Self deleted my post.

[tanyev]

10. The GOP has become the POP.

Party of Putin.

[FalloutShelter]

11. 100%

I almost can’t believe we are witnessing this right now.
This party can’t burn itself down fast enough.
The problem … as per usual… is the MSM’s both siderism on display for the entire world to see.
Our allies are fucking worried about our democracy.
Let that sink in.

[rainy]

5. Guess they are still trying to claim their

stolen land!

[Frasier Balzov]

6. They could be Israelis themselves now.

If they've been auditioning for self-governance as Palestine, it's been a rather poor performance.

[rainy]

7. Wow

[The Mouth]

17. Taking hostages- this is *NOT* going to go well for anyone

Not a good move; it is not going to get Hamas what they want and there is simply nothing that is going to unite a lot of Isralies behind Netanyahu to a greater degree.
Hell, I remember the Iranians taking Americans hostage, being in JC at the time and actually very anti-Shah as we had several Iranian fellow students who gave us insight as to how bad it was; but once the revolutionaries took the hostages the attitude of pretty much everyone, including us leftists, changed, and changed MEAN.