Seriously-- a post straight-forwardly explaining pre-9/11 warnings is hidden by jury?

[NoMoreWarNow]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023080979

[canoeist52]

1. Very sad on an "Underground" site.

The truth is now "disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate".

[NoMoreWarNow]

7. my feelings exactly

[libodem]

2. It belongs here in creative speculation

You should move it here. Personally I think the warnings were overlooked but we look like nuts if we say so on the front page. We can talk about that kind of stuff here, where we are not so conspicuous.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. That is coming straight from a pretty mainstream source

As in wired magazine.

[libodem]

11. I love this stuff

But it makes us look illogical and irrational to question the official state sponsored propaganda for the proletariat, comrade.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Some day Americans will wake up

As to how badly they were manipulated. And no, not buying MIHOP...many reasons. LIHOP, was more accidental than anything else. Keystone cops if you will

[cpwm17]

13. I vote for T$TC (Too $tupid To Care)

Though it seems that some in the Bush administration were quite pleased about what went down on 9-11.

MIHOP is ridiculous, of course.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. It is more like accidental LIHOP

Ergo the key stone cops.

[libodem]

15. Somebody was asleep at the Wheel

The outgoing Clinton Administration, tried to warn them, but Bush had that insufferable snotty attitude, of being a know-it-all, and did the opposite. The new administration was too busy insinuating that the white house was left filthy and even had excrement left in office desk drawers.(per Bill Clinton's memoir)

Ever read House of Bush, House of Saud? It was a pre 9/11 book. Pretty good, too.

There's a reason the British tried to sue Saudi Arabia for what happened on 9/11. There were people in the royal family sending money to the highjackers, ffs.

I wonder if Americans could stick their heads any deeper into the sand.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. Well it helps

When the media fails to do it's job.

[libodem]

17. They were complicit

In the non-existent investigation. The bad old days of Ari Fletcher and Scotty McClellen. (at least Scotty eventually seemed to have liars remorse)

[BobbyBoring]

18. I'm a total MIHOP

Look at what has followed. Every Neo cons wet dream. Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. The surveillance state, etc.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. LIHOP allows for same and it is not a security nightmare.

LIHOP, you need 10 people tops...mihop you need thousands.

That is why.

The same result, but less problems...potentially

[sabbat hunter]

20. with LIHOP or

MIHOP you need Bush and other top level officials to be competent. and other than Colin Powell they aren't.

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. Sorry to point this out, they were extremely competent

They got the exact results they wanted

[dougolat]

22. "Exactly the results they wanted" meaning Patriot Act and Iraq War...

...couldn't have happened without the seven months preparation: re-arranging multiple annual war-games into an unprecedented cluster, changing emergency procedures and personnel, and thwarting the security people who were interfering, for starters.
There's a whole lotta LIHOP to go around, from the shrub who wanted to ride a war horse, to the ones who were about to get rich and the ones who needed all that evidence in bldg.7 to vanish, to the writers of the Patriot Act and the Project For The American Century, to the ones about to become DHS, to the ones who had just helped tweek the 2000 election and would welcome a distraction from their guilt, to the smaller fry, the mobilized minions, who were excited or trusting or scared.
But make no mistake: LIHOP, what they were LETTING HAPPEN was letting the MIHOP people call most of the shots.
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[pscot]

3. I missed it

Maybe you could post the links that were hidden

[NoMoreWarNow]

5. can't you see it?

I am able to click to see the hidden post.

[dixiegrrrrl]

4. The host should have locked it

with reccommendation to use this group, the issue being anything to do with 9-11 does not meet SOP for GD.
( I have hosted some forums, so had to learn all the SOPs).
A shame it got locked...poster puts up lots of valuable info on one page, lots of work went into that.

[NoMoreWarNow]

6. really? simply pointing out pre-9/11 warnings is too extreme for GD?

[dixiegrrrrl]

8. Go to GD and read the "about this group"

which is the SOP ( Statement of purpose).
The post was good, the place was wrong according to DU guidelines.
Since DU3 was born, there have been changes in what is accepted and where.

[Jesus Malverde]

10. The post started out good with a focus on the pre warnings but got lost with the commission info.

Wall of text or TLDR.

[AtheistCrusader]

23. It also contains twoofer nonsense by people like Stubblebine claiming

that the hole in the pentagon doesn't fit an aircraft.

Which of course, is nonsense. There is ample proof not only that an aircraft hit it, but that a precise match of a particular individual aircraft that hit it, by part numbers, fragments, data recorders, exterior damage leading up to the impact, etc.

So please don't pretend it was simply pre-9/11 warnings that were ignored in that post. It was ALSO material specifically spelled out in the rules, as belonging in this subforum. (The intelligence subject isn't actually 'twoofer nonsense', as there is even congressional/commission record of evidence that was presented to the administration, that was ignored or misunderstood.

Hard to see the threats coming from other directions, when you have your 'how can we justify invading Iraq' blinders on and war drums pounding.