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Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 03:01 PM Dec 2013

New studies: ‘Conspiracy theorists’ sane; government dupes crazy, hostile

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/14/whatabout7/


Recent studies by psychologists and social scientists in the US and UK suggest that contrary to mainstream media stereotypes, those labeled “conspiracy theorists” appear to be saner than those who accept the official versions of contested events.

The most recent study was published on July 8th by psychologists Michael J. Wood and Karen M. Douglas of the University of Kent (UK). Entitled “What about Building 7? A social psychological study of online discussion of 9/11 conspiracy theories,” the study compared “conspiracist” (pro-conspiracy theory) and “conventionalist” (anti-conspiracy) comments at news websites.

The authors were surprised to discover that it is now more conventional to leave so-called conspiracist comments than conventionalist ones: “Of the 2174 comments collected, 1459 were coded as conspiracist and 715 as conventionalist.” In other words, among people who comment on news articles, those who disbelieve government accounts of such events as 9/11 and the JFK assassination outnumber believers by more than two to one. That means it is the pro-conspiracy commenters who are expressing what is now the conventional wisdom, while the anti-conspiracy commenters are becoming a small, beleaguered minority.

Perhaps because their supposedly mainstream views no longer represent the majority, the anti-conspiracy commenters often displayed anger and hostility: “The research… showed that people who favoured the official account of 9/11 were generally more hostile when trying to persuade their rivals.”

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New studies: ‘Conspiracy theorists’ sane; government dupes crazy, hostile (Original Post) Why Syzygy Dec 2013 OP
Rerun William Seger Dec 2013 #1
Finally BobbyBoring Dec 2013 #2
Of course… MrMickeysMom Dec 2013 #3
Yes ... Why Syzygy Dec 2013 #4
Is your mind "hermetically sealed" William Seger Jan 2014 #5
"I can't seem to find any part of that study even remotely resembles Barrett's characterization" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #6
Kevin Why Syzygy Jan 2014 #8
I asked for you to show me where the study says your OP title William Seger Jan 2014 #9
Of Course Wolf Frankula Jan 2014 #7
conspiracists legitimized sweetexile Jul 2014 #10
And you believe this crap? IronGate Jul 2014 #11
Barrett lied again superbeachnut Jul 2014 #12
Study authors say Barrett lied William Seger Aug 2014 #13

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
3. Of course…
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 11:49 PM
Dec 2013

Remember the bumper sticker, "question authority"? It started being popular in the late 70's, and pretty much goes along with the generation that probed, then probed again.

Any time one questions instead of accepting "conventional wisdom", the brain is used globally. To use your whole brain is a good thing, and quite sane…

The reason you see comments on the hostile side, conversely, has to do with a narrow minded, limbic brain reaction. This, IMO, is the kind of response you'd get from persons who, upon frustration, uses less and less of their brain.

They're everywhere… so they're well represented here…

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
4. Yes ...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 01:29 PM
Dec 2013

I don't know how anyone with a hermetically sealed mind can consider themselves mentally healthy.

William Seger

(11,082 posts)
5. Is your mind "hermetically sealed"
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 12:47 PM
Jan 2014

... against the possibility that "truther" Kevin Barrett is lying to you about what the study actually says? Since Barrett "forgot" to link to it, here it is:

http://www.frontiersin.org/personality_science_and_individual_differences/10.3389/fpsyg.2013.00409/abstract

I can't seem to find any part of that study even remotely resembles Barrett's characterization of it. If you can please point me to it, then I guess I'll have to agree with you about why I missed it.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
6. "I can't seem to find any part of that study even remotely resembles Barrett's characterization"
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 07:49 PM
Jan 2014

Maybe that part of the study was what they were trying to hide when the Illuminati blew-up WTC 7.

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
8. Kevin
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 12:06 AM
Jan 2014
summarizes the report, which is exactly what is reported ...

"In short, the new study by Wood and Douglas suggests that the negative stereotype of the conspiracy theorist – a hostile fanatic wedded to the truth of his own fringe theory – accurately describes the people who defend the official account of 9/11, not those who dispute it."


"Hostile fanatic" is not sanity. It is, however, a perfect description of the official story conspiracists.

Wolf Frankula

(3,675 posts)
7. Of Course
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 10:41 PM
Jan 2014

Aliens killed Kennedy, the CIA built the pyramids, Saucer Nazis caused Watergate, the Moon Landing was real, it's the Moon that's Faked, the Rockefellers murdered Jesus and Elvis never existed.

Wolf

sweetexile

(11 posts)
10. conspiracists legitimized
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 02:21 AM
Jul 2014

I am really happy at this news-if you'd like another prestigious source check out Dr. Alan Scheflin's information. He is a law professor at Santa Clara Law and also teaches on hypnotism and governmental/CIA interference in the lives of American citizens.

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
11. And you believe this crap?
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 11:15 AM
Jul 2014

So, they're taking 2174 comments and extrapolating it to the entire population to prove their point?

Perhaps because their supposedly mainstream views no longer represent the majority, the anti-conspiracy commenters often displayed anger and hostility: “The research… showed that people who favoured the official account of 9/11 were generally more hostile when trying to persuade their rivals.”


I'm calling bullshit on this comment, CT'ers are usually much more angrier and more strident than rational people.

superbeachnut

(381 posts)
12. Barrett lied again
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 03:47 PM
Jul 2014

Someone failed to read the study, it says paranoid conspiracy theorists are wrong, living in a fantasy world.

William Seger

(11,082 posts)
13. Study authors say Barrett lied
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 09:31 AM
Aug 2014
Setting the record straight on Wood & Douglas, 2013
Posted on July 13, 2013 by Mike Wood

Our recently published Frontiers study on online communication, “What about Building 7?” A social psychological study of online discussion of 9/11 conspiracy theories, has been the subject of some chatter on the Internet – but not quite in the way I had hoped. A story by Kevin Barrett on PressTV.ir has interpreted the study as showing that conspiracists are “more sane” than conventionalists, and, given that this is an appealing headline for long-suffering conspiracists, has been copy-pasted around the Internet in a highly uncritical fashion. I’m often guilty of this too – reading the headline and moving on – because who has the time to read every original source of every news story? In this case, of course, the paper says nothing of the sort and the article’s conclusions are based on misrepresentations of several critical findings.


http://conspiracypsychology.com/2013/07/13/setting-the-record-straight-on-wood-douglas-2013/

Just another example of why "truther" should always be in quotes. Another example is your continued belief in Barrett's distortions after being invited to read the study for yourself.
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