UFOs, Aliens and the Question of Contact B

[Ichingcarpenter]

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The UFO phenomena is quite an elusive topic. Despite many years of documented encounters, there is still no confirmation from any "official" authorities, be it mainstream science or government, that there may be something "otherworldly" going on. On the contrary, there is often ridicule and avoidance whenever this subject comes up. Yet most of the general public believes that extraterrestrial UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) exist and that the government is hiding information from us. Many people had UFO sightings themselves. However, most people also don't give it much attention or thought, believing that it doesn't really affect us anyway and that we'll deal with it once official "contact" has been made.

But what if the UFO phenomena is not what we thought it is, but has influenced humanity and the world at large for thousands of years? What would be the implications?

Our views on life and existence, science and religion, spirituality and evolution, consciousness and psychology as well as reality as we know it would take on a whole new understanding when looking deeper into the UFO phenomena and the possibility of a higher alien intelligence affecting our world. Perhaps we're not the "main show" here on earth and maybe not even on "top of the food chain"? Let's not forget, not too long ago we believed that the earth is flat. What else will we discover?

In general it is impossible to get into any discussion about this topic with people who dismiss something right away without having sincerely looked into the evidence and research. There is no point in discussing beliefs and set view points. Discussion is only constructive when it is not limited by personal preference, beliefs, or a conditioned world view. Open-minded objectivity is essential when seeking truth.

http://www.sott.net/article/247383-UFOs-Aliens-and-the-Question-of-Contact#

[jberryhill]

1. Educated people have known the earth to be round for ages

This is the standout line from that article:

"not too long ago we believed that the earth is flat"

Who is the "we" in that assertion?

That the earth is round, and a good approximation of its dimensions, has been documented to be known back to ancient Egypt, and has been known to educated persons of every age since.

That there have been masses of people believing in ignorant superstitions in every age as well, comes as no surprise. But bringing up the popular currency of misconceptions about reality is not an auspicious context for such statements as, "most of the general public believes that extraterrestrial UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) exist and that the government is hiding information from us".

You have apparently abandoned your open-minded objectivity in relation to claims and theories about the shape of the earth. It is entirely possible that the earth is flat. Perhaps its apparent roundness is caused by optical and gravitational distortion, that can easily be explained by a geometric mapping of the rest of the Universe which proceeds from the actually flat surface of the earth. Any math student beyond second year Algebra is familar with coordinate system conversions, such as mapping coordinates and equations from Cartesian coordinate systems into polar coordinates and so forth.

We apply an entirely artificial bias in making such conclusions. For example, one of the selling points of the Copernican model of the solar system is that geocentric models require a series of complicated trajectory models in order to account for things like the observation of retrograde paths of the planets across the sky. But so what? What if the math behind the observations is, in fact, not "simple"?

The selection of "simpler" models, such as those in which the earth is round or in which the sun is the central body of the solar system (itself so-named as a subtle propaganda ploy over "planetary system&quot , is merely an intellectual choice - a bias - and does not proceed from any observation that is just as well explained by an entirely consistent mathematical model, albeit one that is more unwieldy and complicated by the mathematical systems we use to describe these things. But it is remarkable that while expressly shunning things like "opinion" and "bias", the Scientific Materialist Claque is straightforwardly hypocritical in expressing a bias over which models it chooses to promote.

[Ichingcarpenter]

2. So you didn't look at the video

nor read the complete article and threw the baby out with the bath water?

[RKP5637]

3. We're infants, look at where we were just 100 years ago. n/t

[jberryhill]

4. Yes, but that was before we got our hands on alien technology!

[RKP5637]

5. Yep, lol. I worked in advanced technology for years and where I was we were a bunch of super hard

working people, the hours we kept. Ha, some of the stuff was so complex I'm sure some of the super high-end researches would have loved some alien help! Hmmmmm... I did notice some of them had six fingers on each hand!

[zappaman]

6. Thanks for admitting you are part of the coverup.

[RKP5637]

7. It's my job!

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