Anyone ever see a Boeing 767 that looks like this?

[nationalize the fed]

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Freeze video @0:24 Click Full Screen for better view.
That bulge is not landing gear. So what is it?

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[William Seger]

1. Yes, they ALL look like that

Return of the Pod People.

[nationalize the fed]

4. no Billy

the bulge in the video is not symmetrical













Try again?

[superbeachnut]

5. 911 truth fantasy makes no sense, based on ignorance

They are symmetrical, why does 911 truth lie, not understanding low resolution video, perspective, shadow and light. RADAR proves 911 truth claims and fantasy are nonsense. Why does 911 truth avoid evidence? RADAR proves this is nonsense.

https://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11/Flight_Path_Study_UA175.pdf
When you get the real evidence, the 911 truth fantasy becomes silly nonsense mocking those murdered by 19 nuts.

Will you tell the families about this; what is your fantasy on this inability to understand shadow and light. What is your story? Where are the passengers mocked with nonsense in this 911 truth fantasy?

[nationalize the fed]

8. The bulge is not symmetrical as you can see here

No other 767 looks like that. Anyone can confirm by looking at a regular 767. It's as simple as that. What is the bulge? Was it there when flight 175 took off?

why does 911 truth lie

Why do you call people you don't know liars? That's not very nice at all. Why does the government keep 28 pages of the 911 report classified? Maybe they are lying.

Will you tell the families about this; what is your fantasy on this inability to understand shadow and light. What is your story? Where are the passengers mocked with nonsense in this 911 truth fantasy?

The only people "mocking" the passengers are the ones that don't question the "official story" which is rubbish.

[IronGate]

9. Jesus Christ, do you truthers find a conspiracy in every thing?

Meanwhile, most of the country is laughing our asses off at y'all.

It must really suck to live in your world.

[nationalize the fed]

10. I asked a simple question, Einstein

You obviously have no guess.

Meanwhile, most of the country is laughing our asses off at y'all.

Keep laughing while your entire society and your rights are destroyed because 19 hard drinking lap dance loving devout Muslims defeated the most secure airspace in the world. It's a real hoot.

It must really suck to live in your world.

It sucks to watch America destroyed, yup. But if the people don't care, well why should I. Maybe time to leave.

Meanwhile, have you ever seen a 767 that looks like that?

[superbeachnut]

11. oops, RADAR debunks this claptrap

Keep laughing while your entire society and your rights are destroyed because 19 hard drinking lap dance loving devout Muslims defeated the most secure airspace in the world. It's a real hoot. - nationalize the fed

19 terrorists did 911, 911 truth made up the lap dancing, did it check out? Does the failed 911 truth movement have any reality based evidence, or is it all Google junk.

A real hoot? The skies over the USA never had armed patrols, we had the most civilian airspace in the world, our military is for outside the USA, and the USAF had NO mission to shoot down airliners on 911. The USAF was not authorized to roam around over the USA at will, the skies were totally civilian controlled by the FAA, not the USAF. So the 19 nuts did not defeat anyone, in fact the passengers on Flight 93 beat the terrorists, ordinary people beat them.

Flight 93 Passengers figure out 911 in minutes, whereas 911 truth can't figure out 911 given 13 years. You picked the fantasy world of 911 truth, and spread lies about 911.

It sucks to watch America destroyed, yup. But if the people don't care, well why should I. Maybe time to leave.

Meanwhile, have you ever seen a 767 that looks like that? - nationalize the fed

Good bye, where will you go, Russia. lol

Yepper, it is a 767, tracked by RADAR from takeoff to impact. oops, it is Flight 175, on low resolution video. 911 truth makes up lies about 911, and this one is debunked by RADAR.
https://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11/Flight_Path_Study_UA175.pdf
Anyone can have all the RADAR data, raw data to check, have you checked your data yet? No.

When are you leaving the USA? Bye bye -

[nationalize the fed]

12. What is that bulge? You didn't even try.

Perhaps you're having trouble with understanding the question. Since you apparently have boatloads of free time to mock and deride those you disagree with here's a challenge: Find another BOEING 767 that looks like that. I bet you can't.

You and your gang of thought police wish no one talked about this stuff, even in a forum clearly labeled "Creative Speculation". You're no different than those that burn books.

Well you won't be successful in your censorship attempts. In fact many more people question the official rubbish every single day. Don't you have anything better to do than fling insults? Maybe hang out on the beach? Mock and scoff at the surrounding mass of idiot humanity that look like Stepford wives these days?

When are you leaving the USA? Bye bye -

There are people like you all over the world but where I plan to go there are fewer of you. So that's a good thing.

[superbeachnut]

13. Flight 175 fantasy pod

I flew Boeing jets, you see a 767, and you are fooled by shadow and light.

The 767 that hit the WTC was a stock 767, it was tracked from takeoff to impact by RADAR. A ground controller cleared Fight 175 to taxi out. The airline has the names of each person on board, this is why we know the terrorists by name, and how we eliminated each passenger as a suspect; BINGO

The flight manifest ls on record, the taxi out, on record, the RADAR, on record. What you see are where the landing gear is.

I don't have to try, I flew heavy jets, I am take photos and understand light and shadow. You googled this up and use a low resolution video to make up lies.

911 truth lies about 911 are not censored, they are all over the Internet. The fact is, 911 truth can't connect the dots, they don't use evidence, they make up BS.

You believe in lies, we are not burning books, you are spreading dumbed down lies. And you are not censored, you are not stopped from spreading lies about 911. You offer no evidence for your claim, ignore RADAR. When you leave, don't fly, you don't respect RADAR, and RADAR is used to keep you safe; you deny RADAR, science, you don't use evidence, you make up fantasy - or did you google this one.

It is a 767, a stock 767-200. Did you call the victims families, or are you going to keep this Pulitzer Prize winning news to yourself. What did CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, say. When will you take action. Bet you will not leave the USA, it sounds like your claim it is not a 767, not the truth. Remember, you deny RADAR proves it is Flight 175, better stop flying, RADAR is what we use for safe separation. Good luck with the move, but try to get some knowledge on light and shadow, and aircraft recognition.

Is this the Creative Speculation place, thus is your claim just joke, a fantasy, or do you think it is breaking news, the real thing? This was debunked long ago.

https://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11/Flight_Path_Study_UA175.pdf
Don't you do RADAR? Do you understand you can get the raw data for all the flights on 911? You can prove to yourself it was 175 - but you don't want to ruin your fantasy? Why not check the data, do you need help with the math? What happen to the Passengers in your fantasy of 911? What was the "pod" which is where the landing gear is. Was the landing gear some kind of secret transformer thing.

You can't explain your fantasy? What was the pod? It is light and shadow, but go ahead, explain your story in full. Was it Flight 175? Where are the Passengers? Etc. You understand as a pilot, the person who signs for the aircraft, I inspect the aircraft, if there is a pod on my aircraft, I don't fly it. it is a fact, we don't fly modified aircraft - your pod fails for Flight 175, it can't happen. Are you an aircraft swap person, thus we have thousands of people extra on the plot instead of 19 terrorists who really did 911.

What is your fantasy, spell it out, explain all the details of your "Creative Speculation" theory on Flight 175.

What would the pod be? The aircraft speed and mass gave 175 a kinetic energy imapct equal in energy to 2093 pounds of TNT, a 2,000 pound bomb. What would the pod do?

[nationalize the fed]

15. "you are spreading dumbed down lies"

You believe in lies, we are not burning books, you are spreading dumbed down lies. And you are not censored, you are not stopped from spreading lies about 911. You offer no evidence for your claim, ignore RADAR. When you leave, don't fly, you don't respect RADAR, and RADAR is used to keep you safe; you deny RADAR, science, you don't use evidence, you make up fantasy - or did you google this one.

I don't have time to bicker back and forth with someone as rude as you. You're ignored. And you won't be preventing any further discussion either. Go pound sand on the beach.

[superbeachnut]

33. No evidence yet

Did you figure out RADAR yet?

[jberryhill]

23. that's a moving object poorly lighted with a slow virtual shutter speed

...then, the video has been compressed and encoded several different ways from its native format for YouTube streaming. Then parts have been enlarged and enhanced, which amplifies the compression and codec artifacts.

These are just a few of the reasons why you just can't blow up a grainy video, play with the contrast and brightness, and expect it to be a faithful image of 500 mile per hour reality.

[jberryhill]

22. did you just make this uo?

"Flight 93 Passengers figure out 911 in minutes, whereas 911 truth can't figure out 911 given 13 years."

That's brilliant

[jberryhill]

32. Do you intend to respond to any of the substantive replies to that question?

[Politicalboi]

21. Even here in creative speculation we still have

People who believe the official story. That fragile planes flying at sea level can still fly fast and penetrate steel and concrete. Or that fire can cause buildings to fall at 10 stories a second. Or that terrorist prefer to fly over military bases instead of out of NY. They believe box cutters were the reason. These are idiots. There is NO reasoning with them. It will get you ignored here because they can't handle the truth.

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[AZCat]

30. Yes, because accepting hard evidence and science is idiotic.

Unlike the so-called "truth movement", which accepts the mad ramblings of a gang of hucksters as the gospel truth.

[hack89]

31. There is nothing fragile about the wingbox of an airliner

it is a massively strong steel structure designed to support massive stresses and weights. Add in the engines and landing gear and you have several big chunks of metal that can easily punch through aluminum cladding and concrete.

[William Seger]

7. Google "motion blur" (n/t)

[superbeachnut]

2. RADAR proves it was Flight 175, a stock 767

The damage to the WTC towers is exactly what a 767 does at 590 mph - it is called physics, science, the hard stuff. Fantasy and dumbed down lies from 911 truth are easy stuff, BS.

https://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11/Flight_Path_Study_UA175.pdf

RADAR proves it was 175, a stock 767. 911 truth spreads lies based on ignorance of video, light, shadows, and science.

13 years and you spread lies about 911 - already debunked. Did you tell ABC, CBS, NBC, anyone? No.

Did you tell the families of the victims you figured out 911? Did you take action yet? The Boston bombers would believe you, but they are not too smart.

[johndoeX]

3. Radar proves no such thing...

Further details here....

Beachy asks - "Did you tell the families of the victims you figured out 911?"

I ask, did you?

More here....

http://patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html

[delphi72]

17. Bob McIlvaine

Did you tell him that if he disagreed with you you'd be glad to put a bullet in his head?

[delphi72]

24. McIlvaine is PfT Fodder

Juwst watched that entire Bob McIlvaine video. With all due respect to the fact that the man lost his son, that dude is a bat-shit crazy moron. Hands down. Anger, bitter, ignorant, misguided. Just another example of why the Troother movement is an absolute laughing stock and with with representatives like him or Gage or Balsamo, it is nothing more than an ongoing SNL skit.

Shove it, McIlvaine. You are crapping all over the memory of not only your son but thousands of other victims of islamic terrorism.

[superbeachnut]

6. 911 truth fantasy backed by pilot for truth lies about RADAR, big FAIL

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RADAR proves it was stock 767.
Pilots for truth make up dumbed down lies of aircraft swaps, and nonsense. Yet, the pilots for truth failed to write up RADAR as being bogus, and in fact, the fantasy believing pilots at pilots for truth use RADAR to maintain safety and track their flights everyday, and pilots like Jeff Latas who lies about 911, still use RADAR, proving RADAR is valid. RADAR proves pilot for truth videos are fiction, used to mislead people.

https://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11/Flight_Path_Study_UA175.pdf
RADAR wins again, proof flight 175 was a stock 767. The FBI knows, why can't pilots for truth tell the truth? Ironic name for a mess of lies, fantasy, and nonsense.
Unable to debunk RADAR, pilots for truth stuck with fake Vg diagrams, lies of plane swaps, impossible speed lies, and more "offer no theory" claims based on ignorance as best.

Pilots for truth lie about 911.
They can't do math, so they lie. So supporting the fantasy pod nonsense is what pilots for truth do. No evidence, just talk.
http://www.cesura17.net/~will/Ephemera/Sept11/Balsamo/balsamo2.html
no math, just woo --- how do you mess up math that bad? Guess supporting the pod fantasy fits with the fantasy physics.


Where is pilots for truth's Pulitzer? Wait, this is the Creative Speculation. Spreading lies about 911 is not very creative.

[nationalize the fed]

14. Further analysis and pictures of Air Force Aircraft with cylinders attached to fuselage

Was Extra Equipment Attached To Flight 175? (The plane that struck the south Twin Tower on 9/11)

"There was a pod attached to that aircraft"- Pilot Glen Stanish

"It appeared to me that there was something on the under fuselage of that aircraft that did not belong there."- Major Glen MacDonald, US Army (Ret)

From the video:

PATRONAT MUNICIPAL DE L’ESCOLA
UNIVERSITARIA POLITÉCNICA DE MATARÓ

ANALYSIS OF THE IMAGES OF 11 SEPTEMBER 2001
OBJECTIVES OF THE ANALYSIS

To verify the possible presence of objects on the underside of the fuselage of the second plane involved in the attack in New York on 11 September.

The same analysis has been performed on various images. The selected images are fragments of photographs of the attack on 11 September and a Boeing 767-300.

CONCLUSIONS

The studied images are taken from different angles of observation.

The detected cylindrical objects cannot be due to shadows caused by the angle of incidence of the sun on the plane, because they always appear to be the same shape and size, though with varying luminosity.

The detected objects have varying luminosity around them because they are in relief (this is the only possible explanation).

The detected objects are clearly distinct from the landing gear.

AMPARO SACRISTÁN CARRASCO
PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY SCHOOL

Mataró (Barcelona, Spain), 26 March 2003
http://www.amics21.com/911/report.html

[superbeachnut]

16. debunked by RADAR again, not matter what lies 911 truth makes up, NO Pod

Shadows and light fool paranoid conspiracy theorists.

"There was a pod attached to that aircraft"- Pilot Glen Stanish

This is not evidence, it is called hearsay, BS, nonsense. It was a stock 767, you can track Flight 175 from takeoff to impact.

Have you told the FBI you have evidence? No, you have fantasy from people who can't comprehend light and shadow on low resolution video. What is your pod? lol, a landing gear - you found a landing gear.

Debunked by RADAR and FAA records, 911 truth fails again. I thought you left the USA? IF you fly, remember, you deny RADAR, and RADAR is used over the USA to keep you safe; you deny it works.

BTW, video works with electromagnetic radiation, and so does RADAR; Science debunks 911 truth's delusions and fantasies.

https://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11/Flight_Path_Study_UA175.pdf
RADAR data, even 911 truth pilots, pilots for truth have the raw data which they used to make up lies of aircraft swaps, but the data proves no swaps, and they failed. And the data proves it was Flight 175, from take off to impact. So you say pilots were in on it, since pilots would not take a plane with a pod, we inspect our planes before we fly, and refuse planes with modifications not in the Dash 1, not in the manual. You have failed to use evidence, and you use BS made up by people who are spreading lies, or so silly into nonsense, they make up stupid claims they believe due to ignorance and their inability to look at real evidence.

Ingore the RADAR it will ruin the fantasy of the pod for 911 truth followers. Followers. Are there any leaders in 911, all 911 truth does is post junk with no evidence. When will 911 truth take action? Never, 13th year of failure, and the pod is one of the biggest lies. The silly pod lives in 911 truth fantasy.

Did you take your evidence to a newspaper yet? No, why not.

[hack89]

18. What do you think is the significance of the bulge?

why would they need to add such a large, easily seen modification to a 767 to make their plot work?

[delphi72]

19. Because

Woo. Truthers need woo. The idea of a nefarious and dastardly plot to fly jets fast and crash into buildings is too pedestrian to work. You need woo. A "pod" is woo.

[superbeachnut]

20. Where is the Pulitzer Prize

With big stories like this where is the Pulitzer Prize.

Does this qualify as Creative Speculation, it's more like Plagiarized Nonsense. Where is the Creative stuff. If you are going to lie about something, make it better, be creative, be original, stop plagiarizing silly lies from failed movements. Step up the quality of the woo.

[archaic56]

25. what if

What if the ptbs had an idea of taking the country back to serfs and kings. What if the money men didn't like the way human rights and peoples rights trumped corporate? What if these men who had money devised a way to take us all to an Orwellianina future.I am NOT saying it is so.. I am saying WHAT IF?

AS iN What if it was a false flag.. and the media, owned by six rich white men have played us all like pawns in a chess game like Satan.

I KNOW NOTHING! I want to stress that..Just asking a what if..

What if divide and conquer has been used since Roman times continually to keep the rich where they are and the people at the bottom. I'll leave the digging to prove or disapprove to people with more time. Hope folks aren't so immature they don't have open minds

I'll just say direct human experience led me to know.. there are two, perhaps even three sides to every story. I wish you all well and do not judge others based on their opinions.

[zappaman]

28. What if

Your aunt had balls?

She'd be your uncle!

[cpwm17]

26. OMG, I've found another one!

It's also American Airlines.

Obviously, like this picture, the one that hit WTC1 was not evenly lit so it looked asymmetrical.

[jberryhill]

27. They've seeded the internets with altered pictures of airplanes

...just so people would find them and think they are normal.

You don't really think that is an actual un-retouched picture of an airplane, do you?

You've fallen for the bait.

Once they realized that the grainy YouTube frame was out there, they made high quality fake photographs of airplanes with asymmetric pods, so the pictures would get picked up in Google searches and people would think planes actually looked like that.

[zappaman]

29. And they would have gotten away with it...

if it wasn't for you meddling kids!!!