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Related: About this forumNIST: "We did not test for explosive residue."
NIST Official FAQs
(federal agency in charge of official investigation into the cause of the WTC building collapses)
NIST stands for National Institute of Standards and Technology
22. Did the NIST investigation look for evidence of the WTC towers being brought down by controlled demolition? Was the steel tested for explosives or thermite residues?
NIST did not test for the residue of these compounds in the steel.
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/faqs_wtctowers.cfm
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Which begs the question why didn't they test for explosives?? As everyone knows explosives are the most commonly used and favorite weapon of terrorists. As we all know, explosives were used once before on an attack at the WTC back in 1993. Explosives were used in 1995 to bring down an entire US federal building killing hundreds in Oklahoma city. The list goes on. So after any terrorist attack one of the very first things they should be doing is testing for explosives. obviously. But they did not test for explosives in the 9/11 attack?? Why??
And this is one of the biggest reasons why the official investigation has proven itself to be a total farce, sham and cover-up!
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ChazInAz
(2,797 posts)Thousands of people saw two airliners smash into the buildings. There's this concept referred to as Occam's Razor. Familiarise yourself with it before embarrassing yourself, again.
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)...is one of the most fundamental rules in science (and basic logic).
please familiarize yourself with the term before embarrassing yourself, again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
superbeachnut
(381 posts)Occam's Razor is not used by 911 truth, 911 truth use "BS Razor" where the most complicated plot on earth using silent explosives, thermite, and thousands of people to set it up, remote control aircraft costing billions, fake passengers, fake video, etc, etc.\
911 truth, the dumbest movement on earth with fantasy plots they can't define, explain or prove with evidence. Their evidence is safe inside their heads with their fantasy.
The FAA, NTSB, FBI, FDNY, USAF, NORAD, NAVY, ARMY, the entire Pentagon including DoD civilians, etc. were in on the plot in the heads of 911 truth followers; a faith based cult based on ignorance and hate.
Do 911 truth followers fly? Gee, they deny RADAR works since it debunks all 911 truth aircraft claims, and the FAA were in on the plot, yet they fly commercial airliners and travel. Guess they are joking about all the lies they spread.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)So THAT'S how it works ... ignore the obvious and look instead for nefarious little green men with point ears ..
Got it ...
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)are the ones that expect everyone to believe a government that has lied to their citizens about almost everything for at least a hundred years
What's in the 28 redacted pages? The day those pages are made public (and they will be) many people are going to be embarrassed.
http://28pages.org/
dixiegrrrrl
(60,011 posts)The President lied about seeing the first plane, and most people never saw it that early in the am.
Most people saw news images later in the day of a second airplane.
No planes were reported to hit Building 7, which came down at free fall speed later that afternoon.
superbeachnut
(381 posts)Please explain free fall speed, what speed is that? lol, you don't do physics do you.
Free fall speed, is it 100 mph, or 120 mph? lol
What is your point.
The president (bush) said he saw (left out "where"
the plane hit. He left out "where", and it becomes fodder for idiotic claims about 911.
He saw the hole in the WTC like we all did, and he said "saw the plane hit", and left out the simple word, "where". And 911 truth dolts make up BS they can't explain. Wow, the president saw something he can't see, oh man, what does it mean...
WHAT?
He left out "where".
911 truth, has to be the dumbest movement in history, unable to prove a single claim in 13 years of spreading enough BS to fertilize the earth for years.
The president did not lie, he was, too stupid to lie - what a big failure on that BS.
No planes hit WTC 7, oh man, it burned all during the day, and then the steel failed; NIST thinks a column fell off and the load caused the interior of the WTC to collapse for 8 seconds before the exterior. The entire collapse took over 16 seconds, but then 911 truth can't bother to get anything more then the date right, and they may not have clue what day 911 was.
zappaman
(20,618 posts)It was even captured on tape by guys filming a documentary on firefighters.
Did you really not know this?
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)just as the OKC bombing was an act of domestic terrorism (as we can all agree).
9/11 should be investigated in the same light. but the Bush admin made up their minds on the first day that bin Laden was responsible and twisted the investigation to fit that narrative.
And the government refused to conduct a formal investigation of 9/11 at all giving in only after months of pressure from family members of the victims and being threatened with lawsuits. Another major red flag pointing to a coverup.
"I don't know where he is, you know I just don't spend that much time on it."
-GW Bush being asked about the search for Osama bin Laden at a press conference
6 months after 9/11
superbeachnut
(381 posts)Wow, Bush got 911 right, and you? lol, believe in fantasy.
The formal investigation into 911 started on 911, you lied again. It was the biggest investigation in history for the FBI. Why do you lie about it?
The red flag is 911 truth spreading lies.
BTW, UBL promised to kill Americans when and where he could, only people fail to keep up would not suspect UBL at the second impact, Flight 175's impact. You are 13 years behind.
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)Chimpy got 9/11 right? You mean like he got Iraq right?
Hey where them WMDs at? In your dreams?
If he got it right he would have stopped 9/11 from happening in the first place.
The criminal Boosh admin. are the last people on earth I would trust to ever investigate anything.
superbeachnut
(381 posts)Bush got 911 right, nuts who worked with UBL did 911. You have had 13 years, and you can't come up with anything rational on 911. Irony, Bush got 911 right, you got 911 mixed up with some fantasy world of BS.
As for Iraq, it has nothing to do with 911, but 911 truth followers get confused.
lol, there goes your inside job, this post means you are faking the 911 truth junk,
gyroscope - Chimpy got 9/11 right? You mean like he got Iraq right?
Hey where them WMDs at? In your dreams?
If he got it right he would have stopped 9/11 from happening in the first place.
The criminal Boosh admin. are the last people on earth I would trust to ever investigate anything.
The FBI investigated 911, you must of missed it. They are not the Bush Administration, they are people who work for the FBI.
How can he stop your fantasy? What happened on 911 that bush could stop since your 911 never existed.
You believe in remote control, how can Bush stop that, it is in your fantasy.
You believe in CD, how can he stop something that never happened.
How do you stop people from rushing the cockpit and cutting the pilots throats? Explain how you read the minds of 19 murderers before they do it?
We know if you were president it would have happened because you can't figure out 911 after it happened.
Iggo
(48,463 posts):shakesfist:
superbeachnut
(381 posts)The old silent explosives BS from 911 truth. In their fantasy they have high explosives which don't leave blast effects - zero steel had blast effects of high explosives.
What demented fantasy mocks the murder of thousands with silent explosives? Worse is the lie of thermite - zero damage to any steel from thermite, and zero products of thermite; like big piles of iron, or any iron.
Why has 911 truth failed to make progress after 13 years. No evidence for their dumbed down fantasy of CD.
They did not check for explosives because there was no evidence explosives were used; they failed to test for Bigfoot too, or Santa, or nukes, or DEW. Only dolts have to check for stuff not there.
When will 911 truth show evidence of explosives or thermite? Never. 13 years of solid perfected failure, and mocking those murdered on 911 with lies, apologizing for 19 terrorists by spreading lies of a fantasy inside job - oh man, no evidence after 13 years.
Why are the peers of 911 truth followers people like the Boston bombers?
William Seger
(11,082 posts)Probably because they weren't aware of any explosives that don't produce an explosive sound, window-shattering shock wave, or seismographic signature. They also didn't test the steel for Leprechaun fingerprints.
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)...they just chose to ignore it. And continue to ignore anything and everything that doesn't fit into the Boosh narrative. But keep drinking that kool aid! Ignorance is bliss.
Firefighters: "the windows were shattered, the lobby looked like the plane hit the lobby"
William Seger
(11,082 posts)There was no reason to test for residues from conventional explosives like RDX, because such explosives certainly do not have those magical properties. If you want them to test for magical silent explosives, you'll need to tell them what residues such devices produce.
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)you have a very vivid imagination. do you write science fiction for a living?
I wasn't aware there was such a thing as invisible magic fire that could shatter all those plate glass windows in the lobby without being seen or detected. those terrorists are more clever than I thought!
William Seger
(11,082 posts)We can discuss why NIST didn't test for magical delayed-reaction explosives that bring down buildings hours after they are detonated, too, if you can tell them what residues they produce.
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William Seger
(11,082 posts)They should just point a tricorder at it, and it will pop up "Magic Silent Explosives."
hack89
(39,180 posts)we keep hearing about all these engineers and Phd's - how come none of them were smart enough to go to a rooftop near the WTC site and scoop up a bunch of dust samples?
BobbyBoring
(1,965 posts)And found traces of thermite.
hack89
(39,180 posts)But secondly, thermite does not explode. We keep hearing about all the explosions and squibs - what caused those?
superbeachnut
(381 posts)Why is no steel from the WTC damaged by thermite? You are debunked by the evidence. Why do you repeat lies about 911.
WovenGems
(776 posts)They never tested for Fairy Dust either. Which begs the question "who are they covering up for?". Tinkerbell did it.
estevamsp33
(38 posts)cpwm17
(3,829 posts)The reason they didn't test for silent explosives is the same reason they didn't test for invisible ninjas: they don't exist and a couple of very large aircraft were very well documented flying into the towers.
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)many witnesses reported hearing them but you knew that! Many witnesses reported feeling them also and some reported seeing the flashes. And there's at least one video which has the of one...
But most of the destruction of the support columns was done by thermit as has been documented by Jones and others.
Now what will be the Bush/Cheney CT supporting anti-truthers responses? We shall see. 
superbeachnut
(381 posts)No body heard explosives; you are confused and need to understand what simile is.
estevamsp33
(38 posts)It'd ruin the official fairy tale.
superbeachnut
(381 posts)Do you have evidence of explosives? No you have a 911 truth fantasy.
estevamsp33
(38 posts)Says who?
superbeachnut
(381 posts)wow, no evidence of explosives
no blast damage to any steel
no sounds from explosives
nothing to show that explosives were used
If you have evidence, then you better present it - 13 years of BS from 911 truth, and you think explosives were used.
The 19 terrorists used four planes, did you miss the reality based evidence? Is your google stuck on 911 truth lies.
Produce some evidence. Wait, there is no evidence. The explosives lie is not creative speculation, it is BS, lies and delusions.
AZCat
(8,345 posts)As I explained in the other thread, they were not directed to explore every possible cause of collapse. You seem to be struggling with this concept. I am not surprised, of course.