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Related: About this forumFormer Olympic athlete slams drag shows and compares them to blackface
A former Olympic athlete has sparked debate on social media with a tweet she posted Saturday in which she spoke out against drag.
Sharron Davies, who competed for Great Britain in the 1976 and 1980 Olympics (where she took a silver medal), has in recent years become an outspoken critic of allowing trans women to compete in female sports. Over the weekend, she broadened her criticism to also include drag queens.
Am I the only person fed up of drag shows? A parody of what a real woman is, like black face. Woman are juggling kids, rushing out a wholesome dinner, doing the laundry & cleaning, holding down a job all with period pains & leaky boobs if breast feeding. Enough of the stereotypes.
The tweet has had over 12.5k likes and prompted 7k comments. Some of her followers have agreed with her. However, many others have criticized her comparison to blackface, and her own some would argue stereotypical definition of womanhood.
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rampartc
(5,835 posts)and I think the issue of trans girls competing at sports with genetic females requires a little more analysis and perhaps an * in the record books.
let me try (and fail) : is requiring trans women to compete in women's events imposing a binary framework on non binary sexual identity?.
maybe we need events specifically for trans gender persons?
Behind the Aegis
(54,913 posts)Why would there need to be events specifically for transpeople?
rampartc
(5,835 posts)without considering that the lives of actual people of color are not all song and dance.
Behind the Aegis
(54,913 posts)Blackface is meant to mock and demean black people, are you saying drag does the same of women?
lostnfound
(16,699 posts)What would happen if there was no separate events for the quarter mile, or weightlifting, etc.?
janterry
(4,429 posts)about trans athletes - esp. those have gone through puberty in their biological sex. It's important.
I don't get the drag queen stuff compared to blackface.
I wonder if it is coming up because it has recently become controversial - because young kids are doing it (those internet 'stars' have huge followings - and a few ? - well at least one of those kids performed a drag queen act in a 'proper' night club)? (Though still not getting the analogy, tbh).
Skittles
(160,136 posts)I can understand how blackface is demeaning but I have never been offended by drag queens. Actually, I find them very entertaining. Do I need to be enlightened?
Behind the Aegis
(54,913 posts)While there are some drag performances which might not be "positive", most performances are not done to demean or otherwise humiliate women; the same cannot be said of blackface. Frankly, this seems like heterosexist nonsense compounded with healthy slices of homophobia and transphobia.
Skittles
(160,136 posts)I kept thinking about it and I have never thought drag is trying to DEMEAN women - honestly, it feels more like a CELEBRATION
on edit: you know who DOES hate drag? Homophobes. And we all know misogyny is at the root of homophobia. This is just another attempt to justify homophobia / transphobia - fuck that noise
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Liza, Judy, Barbra, and so on...
rainy
(6,228 posts)sports from men and womens sports then you cant separate men and womens sports either for obvious reasons of anatomical disadvantages.
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cwydro
(51,308 posts)What in the world does that mean?
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cwydro
(51,308 posts)A pejorative for a woman, no doubt.
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cwydro
(51,308 posts)Ive heard of its use in terms of prostitution, but not in the gay world I know.
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)Profiled the gender stereotypes, expectations "boys wear blue, girls wear pink" in absolute terms. Even when these were getting criticized for such antiquated notions, there they were, even used as primary reading materials in a rather backward rural area where 1950's era textbooks were still issued, despite duct-taped, rotting binders and annoyingly outdated reinforcements of "daddy goes to work, mommie washes the dishes". I always found those series sickeningly dated.
Forward half a century, and I see some curious throw-back neighbors cringeworthy reactions to any male wearing anything colorful, themselves having NEVER donned anything more joie de vivre than a mattress cover, daily. Such who cannot even follow a conversation containing any 3 syllable terms, sipping their beer, burp... The moral to my story becomes sickeningly apparent when they land on my imaging table with all consuming pancreatitis (and all too often these days, positive for methamphetamine abuse) poster-boys for toxic masculinity.
It seemed like the greatest-generation, due-for-retirement teachers were still endevouring to cement these absolutes into us, to the extent of myself on the receiving end of physical punishments for perceived violations of behavioral standards. I can't recall what I was punished for, only the sting of the paddle.
To this day, those nightmares make me say "Plug the fuck in, Fox News". Pedaling the above talking point seems doubly hypocritical... but attempting to convince such boomers of such runs smack into obstinate dunning/kruger effect.
And they vote.
Mc Mike
(9,173 posts)of W. PA.
First time we attended one. It was great, raised a lot of money for Womens' health, and repro rights.