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mahatmakanejeeves

(61,039 posts)
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 12:54 PM Jul 2022

How the Supreme Court recalibrated the abortion debate in just 3 words

Three words, “unborn human being,” that appear in the Supreme Court's majority opinion on overturning Roe v. Wade have strong Christian overtones, religion experts say.

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How the Supreme Court recalibrated the abortion debate in just 3 words | WTOP News
It’s not just that US Supreme Court majorities upheld Mississippi’s 15-week abortion ban and overturned Roe v. Wade. The opinion also


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How the Supreme Court recalibrated the abortion debate in just 3 words (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2022 OP
I'm getting tired of right-wing extremism being characterized was merely "Christian" unblock Jul 2022 #1
Well... Mike Nelson Jul 2022 #2
As a Hindu, my deeply held religous belief understands: sanatanadharma Jul 2022 #3
I was expecting something like this from SCOTUS... regnaD kciN Jul 2022 #4
They knew better than to invoke "natural law." ShazzieB Jul 2022 #5

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(54,160 posts)
1. I'm getting tired of right-wing extremism being characterized was merely "Christian"
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 01:00 PM
Jul 2022

I'm not Christian, but I've known plenty of Christians who do not believe any many of these right-wing extremist views. Yes, these right-wing extremists point to the Bible and their religious beliefs, but they are hardly universally shared even among all christians.

Never mind Jews, Muslims, nones, etc.

Mike Nelson

(10,289 posts)
2. Well...
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 01:22 PM
Jul 2022

... the point is understandable, and the words suggest a "Personhood" future - but the idea isn't necessarily Christian. My Sunday school past told me life begins at birth - when God gives you breath.

sanatanadharma

(4,074 posts)
3. As a Hindu, my deeply held religous belief understands:
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 01:47 PM
Jul 2022

Every newly incarnate life has as pre-existent condition, previous births.
Every life incarnates within its own karmic-setup.
Everyone's karma needs to be respected, whether it is the one needing 8 decades to unravel the karmic knot, or the one who can get it done in 8 weeks.

regnaD kciN

(26,593 posts)
4. I was expecting something like this from SCOTUS...
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 04:47 PM
Jul 2022

I was thinking they’d invoke “natural law” to declare fertilized eggs to be humans, but this is just a more subtle way of doing it.

But this article misses the point of such a shift. Although the Dobbs ruling “returned the issue to elected representatives,” this, in fact, opens the door to an outright ban. All it takes is a D.A. in a red part of a blue state to charge the woman and doctor with first-degree murder, on the grounds that existing homicide laws already criminalize the killing of a “human being,” and that precedent now declares embryos to qualify. If such a case gets brought before the Supreme Court, is anyone confident they wouldn’t uphold it?

ShazzieB

(18,704 posts)
5. They knew better than to invoke "natural law."
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:03 AM
Jul 2022

That would have sounded too overtly Catholic. The Catholic Church doesn't have a monopoly on the concept of "natural law," and it didn't originate with the Church, but it has a central place in catholic theology and forms the basis of many key teachings, including the prohibitions on both abortion and birth control.

"Unborn human being" is more subtle, and it doen't scream, "Catholic!" in quite the same wat "natural law" would. It was a shrewd choice, imo.

I agree about how it sets the stage for future cases. When (not if) what you describe happens, it'll all depend on the makeup of the court at that time. The implications are terrifying.

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