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question everything

(49,084 posts)
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 11:59 PM Nov 2023

The obscene betrayal of Israelis who survived - and didn't survive - rape

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I wish the horrific scenes of dismembered bodies that had been brutally raped, images that are seared into my soul and the souls of first responders who witnessed the massacres’ devastating aftermath, hadn’t happened. I wish that those women and girls who were assaulted and then escaped or left for dead were not having to carry the crushing weight of this trauma. I wish I had not seen videos of Israeli hostages being taken off a truck in Gaza with telltale signs of sexual assault – blood dripping down from their private areas and soaking their ripped pants.

I wish that this was truly all one big hoax as Ms. Pearson seems to believe. While I am grateful that the university has now terminated Pearson’s leadership of the Alberta Centre, the sentiments that she expressed are ones that are both overtly and covertly being echoed extensively among people whose roles are to be supportive of ALL survivors of sexual violence, not just those who conveniently fit into their worldview or political agenda.

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Yet, over this past month, I heard again and again the view that as Israeli women, the victims somehow brought this on themselves…that they deserved to be violated. I’ve even heard others call rape a valid tool that can be used on the path to freedom. Sometimes it is unspoken. Sometimes it is whispered. Sometimes it is shouted. Sometimes it is lurking underneath the veneer of feminism and social justice. To those who share Ms. Pearson’s beliefs, I ask you, aren’t these supposed to be the exact issues that we have been working against in our shared hopes for a world free of sexual violence?

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If you are claiming that they were never raped or questioning the veracity of their experiences, ask yourself honestly: Are you making these claims just to make sure things fit neatly into a black-and-white version of reality where the “good” side has done nothing wrong? If so, what does that say about the moral compass of the feminist and human rights movements, which have always inspired me so deeply?

More..

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-obscene-betrayal-of-israelis-who-survived-and-didnt-survive-rape

Miriam Schler is the executive director of the Tel Aviv Sexual Assault Crisis Center.

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The obscene betrayal of Israelis who survived - and didn't survive - rape (Original Post) question everything Nov 2023 OP
KNR niyad Nov 2023 #1
oh, definitely. hypocrisy of the first order stopdiggin Nov 2023 #2
There is a petition people can sign to protest this outrage. madaboutharry Nov 2023 #3
Thanks. Signed question everything Nov 2023 #5
Mahalo, Mad.. Cha Nov 2023 #8
This piece by Jake Tapper (NSFW) JudyM Nov 2023 #4
Gruesome - trigger warning. SunSeeker Nov 2023 #10
I've been wondering about the lack of attention on this RandomNumbers Nov 2023 #6
KnR Mosby Nov 2023 #7
Hamas raped then beheaded young Shani Louk. SunSeeker Nov 2023 #9
So much for any fucking moral superiority of he Muslims.. they have NONE. Cha Nov 2023 #11

stopdiggin

(13,008 posts)
2. oh, definitely. hypocrisy of the first order
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 12:09 AM
Nov 2023

one really can't overstate, just how far down the rabbit hole ...

SunSeeker

(54,061 posts)
10. Gruesome - trigger warning.
Thu Nov 23, 2023, 01:07 AM
Nov 2023

A gang rape described in that Jake Tapper report:

"[The Hamas terrorist] chopped off her breast, threw it in the street...another [terrorist] picked it up and played with it...and while [another terrorist] was inside her, he shot her in the head."

RandomNumbers

(18,244 posts)
6. I've been wondering about the lack of attention on this
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:33 AM
Nov 2023

Especially since Islam makes so many claims about "morality".

How do their boys get raised to be soldiers who rape? Is it okay to rape the non-Islamic "enemy"?

I have been horrified by the devastation of hospitals in Gaza.

But it always comes back to: Hamas started this war. They are keeping it going by not returning hostages and submitting the criminal rapists for prosecution. The evil deeds they have done and continue to do, justify the state of Israel taking effective steps to obliterate the entity "Hamas" - within the laws of war, at least. It is a separate question whether Israel is actually obeying the laws of war. But that question would not exist if Hamas had not committed this terrorism on Oct. 7.

It is horrible that there are innocents on both sides. But clearly Hamas did not care about their own families and neighbors when they undertook this terrorism.

SunSeeker

(54,061 posts)
9. Hamas raped then beheaded young Shani Louk.
Thu Nov 23, 2023, 12:52 AM
Nov 2023

Shani was an innocent young women they abducted from the Nova music festival on October 7, then paraded her half-naked lifeless body through the streets of Gaza on the bed of a pickup, to the cheers of their supporters, before they bashed her head off. All that was found was a skull fragment. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/family-of-shani-louk-who-was-caught-up-in-hamas-rampage-confirm-she-is-dead

I repeat, they paraded her half naked body through the streets of Gaza. To. Cheers. On. Video.

Where are the calls for justice for Shani?

Cha

(305,853 posts)
11. So much for any fucking moral superiority of he Muslims.. they have NONE.
Thu Nov 23, 2023, 01:22 AM
Nov 2023
I wish the horrific scenes of dismembered bodies that had been brutally raped, images that are seared into my soul and the souls of first responders who witnessed the massacres’ devastating aftermath, hadn’t happened. I wish that those women and girls who were assaulted and then escaped or left for dead were not having to carry the crushing weight of this trauma. I wish I had not seen videos of Israeli hostages being taken off a truck in Gaza with telltale signs of sexual assault – blood dripping down from their private areas and soaking their ripped pants

Whot the fuck is "Ms Pearson"?

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