Women Make Less Than Men With the Same Exact Titles in the Same Exact Companies

[eridani]

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/35908-women-make-less-than-men-with-the-same-exact-titles-in-the-same-exact-companies

The report notes that while those gaps are much smaller than the overall wage gap, they are still troubling. For one thing, some of the variables that are accounted for may not be about women simply choosing lower paying paths. They may have fewer years of experience, for example, because women are still expected to do more work caring for family members and are more likely to take a break from their careers to do so.

And any gap between men and women doing the exact same work is still troubling, even if it isn’t quite as large. About a third of the raw gap that Glassdoor found without variables remains unexplained by them and is therefore “due to differences in the way the labor market rewards men and women with the same characteristics, or due to unobserved worker characteristics.” In other words, it may simply exist because of pervasive bias against women in the workplace. New research has also found that women are paid less because employers value women’s work less.

[SheilaT]

1. The sad thing is, this has been going on forever.

I'm old enough to remember the absolute bullshit justifications for this (But they take time off to have BABIES! They CHOOSE jobs that pay less!) and the entire time when everything is properly controlled for things like having babies, women are paid less than men for the exact same job.

In 1969 I went to work as an airline ticket agent. The airline I worked for (Mohawk which probably none of you have even heard of) hired women for the ticket counter, men to work operations and the ramp. The guys were paid more. Even though while the ticket counter job didn't require quite as much heavy lifting as the ramp, it required a hell of a lot more brain power.

Recently I read an interesting article that pointed out that in fields that women moved into in great numbers, the pay declined. If women do the work, it's devalued.

[Skittles]

3. they say women don't bargain as hard for their salary, or push as hard for raises

but women get penalized for being seen as "aggressive"

[Solly Mack]

4. Yep. Women are called names for the same behavior that men are praised for.

Men are seen as leaders; direct and decisive.

Woman are called nags and shrews - and those are the more polite ones.

[mr clean]

5. The sad thing is, If HTC did become President,

Nothing would change. Just like with Obama, how many AA's got better pay?