"Died because of the vaccine" ... Is there rigorous proof that patients have died ONLY because of...

[steve2470]

the vaccine ("the vaccine", meaning all the ones out there) ?

I saw this meme on social media, and yes I could have posted this in Propaganda Debunking, but I figured this was a better group.

I know I could do an exhaustive Google/Bing/internet search, but I figured someone here had the answer at hand quickly.

Is there any validity to this ? I know there have been side effects, some more serious. I know there is an allergy for some to certain ingredients.

But death ? From "the vaccine" alone ?

So far, I am only seeing anecdotal reports. If a patient or patients have died ONLY because of the vaccine and not underlying conditions, then I will accept that "the vaccine" can be a legitimate though extraordinarily rare cause of death.

Thanking you in advance for your patience,

Steve

eta:

found this

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/45000-people-die-covid-19-vaccine/

This is not to say that there aren’t inherent flaws with the VAERS system. As we have previously reported, the national vaccine safety monitoring system accepts reports of adverse events after vaccination but it does not establish a cause-and-effect relationship between symptoms and a vaccine. It’s a public reporting tool — not a vaccine death roster.

“VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event,” noted the DHHS.

But time and again, fabricated and dubious VAERS reports have been at the center of fear-mongering cries to stir opposition against vaccines. And while healthcare providers are required by law to report to VAERS, anyone can file a report. Just because an adverse reaction is listed in the system does not mean that it is legitimate or has been evaluated by medical professionals. (Knowingly filing a false VAERS report is a violation of federal law punishable by fine and imprisonment.)

Despite claiming to have evidence to prove that 45,000 individuals died within three days of receiving their COVID-19 vaccine, our investigation did not reveal a legitimate source to suggest that such allegations are factual. And because our own query into the VAERS system revealed 5,000 deaths following — but potentially unrelated to — COVID-19 vaccination, we rate this claim as “False.”

and this:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/20/facebook-posts/no-evidence-covid-19-vaccines-causing-deaths/

If Your Time is short

According to the CDC, there is no evidence that COVID-19 vaccines have caused any deaths in the U.S.

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And no evidence has established that a COVID-19 vaccine authorized in the U.S. caused any deaths, let alone hundreds of thousands.

[Phoenix61]

1. I believe there are 4 deaths associated with the J&J

vaccine due to blood clots.

[bottomofthehill]

2. And over 700,000 from Covid.....

Gee, I wonder what I should do?????

[PoliticAverse]

3. From the CDC...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 396 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through October 4, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 8,390 reports of death (0.0021%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths.

[FirefighterJo]

4. There are

Some cases where they suspect a correlation between blood clothing and the vaccine, but less then ten deaths worldwide. And with a big question mark around eventual hidden pre existing conditions beforehand . They are also studiyng a suspect correlation between miscarriages and the vaccine, though nothing is yet proven or acknowledged.

[LizBeth]

5. i read one,... Had a stroke three month later died of clot, thanks vaccine.