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Related: About this forumRare, severe liver damage reported in kids in U.S. and Europe
Public health officials in Europe and the United States are investigating dozens of puzzling cases of severe hepatitis in young children.
Hepatitis is an inflammation of the liver. The cause is often a virus, but the viruses that commonly cause the illness hepatitis A, B, C, D and E have been ruled out in the cases in question, leaving doctors searching for the culprit.
In several cases, the illness was so severe that the children needed a liver transplant. No deaths have been reported.
The World Health Organization on Friday said it was investigating 74 cases of severe acute hepatitis in children under age 10 in the United Kingdom. Three cases were also reported in Spain, the WHO said.
In the U.S., nine cases have been reported in children ages 6 and younger in Alabama. The Alabama cases were first reported by Stat News.
Dr. Wes Stubblefield, district medical officer for the Alabama Department of Public Health, said that all of the children were otherwise healthy before becoming ill, and that there is no obvious link among the children.
With the common hepatitis viruses ruled out, the current leading theory is that a different virus, called adenovirus type 41, is to blame.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/severe-hepatitis-kids-dozens-cases-reported-us-europe-rcna24553
Rebl2
(14,682 posts)read something about it that was from 2018 and sounds similar to Covid.
Jilly_in_VA
(10,886 posts)If you read the article, none of these kids had Covid. They mostly had an adenovirus, which is something quite else, a different virus. Covid is a coronavirus.
I understand that. Just saying it sounds like Covid, but I know that it is not Covid. Its adenovirus.
TheRickles
(2,404 posts)It's a small sample size of identified patients, so it'd be easy enough to assess. If no correlation is seen, then it's powerful ammo to use against vaccine skeptics. But if there is a strong correlation (ulp!), it'd certainly be important to know about and research further, however unlikely it may seem.
wnylib
(24,389 posts)that contains NO virus of any kind, cause a retrovirus (unrelated to a coronavirus) in anyone?
Samrob
(4,298 posts)momta
(4,107 posts)https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/common-virus-might-be-linked-to-outbreak-of-severe-hepatitis-in-children-41551808.html
TheRickles
(2,404 posts)Many people claim that the vaccines cause unrelated illnesses because they trigger an immune over-reaction or because they contain toxic compounds, or etc. These hepatitis symptoms need not be caused by a virus, as Ms. Toad explains further down the thread. Anything ending in "-itis" is an inflammation of the specific organ, and inflammations have many, many possible causes.
So hepatitis is, in the vaccine skeptic's mind, one possible vaccine side-effect, much like the myocarditis that has been widely reported and ascribed, by some, to vaccines. A little bit of data, like that provided by momta, goes a long way.
momta
(4,107 posts)I think many of us have the same thoughts when we read stories like this. We worry that little tidbits of information taken out of context will be weaponized for whatever batsh*t theory some wingnut wants to promote. (Do I sound bitter? )
Honestly, I would find it more likely that the inflammation caused by the Sars-Cov-2 virus would be more likely to cause this kind of liver problem, but my medical degree is from Google University, so I try to leave the real speculation to the experts.
paleotn
(19,181 posts)Vaccines, particularly mRNA vaccines, contain no live virus. Plus, correlation, by itself, is bullshit. Ice cream sales correlate strongly with drownings. And shark attacks for that matter.
Ms. Toad
(35,517 posts)My daughter has hepatitis - caused by primary sclerosing cholangitis (PSC).
Some of her friends have either AIH (auto-immune hepatitis) or AIH/PSC overlap.
Both, but especially PSC is increasingly common/diagnosed in children. Children often have a much more aggressive form of the disease - and require liver transplants.
I'm not saying my daughter's disease is the cause of this cluster - just that an infectious disease shouldn't necessarily be the first thought when we hear the word hepatitis.
paleotn
(19,181 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,790 posts)will have a field day with this, regardless of the facts.
SpankMe
(3,245 posts)Did the kids have fatty liver? Were they obese? What was their diet? Were they exposed to pesticides? Radiation? Drugs? Did the Russians beam radio waves at them - in Alabama? Did they eat poorly prepared blowfish? Did they download something from the Internet that was toxic? What is the race and cultural background of the children?
I can't speculate on the cause or what this could possibly be related to. But, this being DU and all, I'll sure as hell politicize it:
Many states mostly controlled by Republicans have stopped reporting Covid data to the CDC. We'll soon be lacking the hard data we need to guide public safety measures and push back on anti-vax and anti-mask people
The reporting of epidemiological data up the chain for government and scientists to study is crucial. We will all die without it.
If these liver cases are found to be due to Coronavirus, or lack of vaccine, or anything that tracks back to a conservative policy or public health ramification held dear by conservatives, then you can bet that reporting of liver failures in children will no longer be reported to public databases.
This is where conservatives worldwide are going right now - if the data indicts something they love or believe in, then stop collecting the data.