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appalachiablue

(42,869 posts)
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 11:24 PM Nov 2022

For Those Who Are High Risk, The Pandemic Is Far From Over

- Daily Kos, Nov. 27, 2022.

There are times over the last three-plus years that I’ve wondered if I’ve been a little too heavy-handed in handling the COVID-19 pandemic. Those questions cropped up anew after Emily Oster of The Atlantic suggested that we declare a “pandemic amnesty” for how we reacted when the pandemic first mushroomed. With few exceptions, even though I’m vaccinated and boosted, I still wear a mask indoors. I also have a hair trigger for displays of covidiocy on social media. However, I did so in large part because a lot of people in my inner circle are either high-risk or immunocompromised. Closest to home, I have an 82-year-old mother, and a father-in-law and brother-in-law who are diabetics.

But any doubt I had about whether I was being too harsh went out the window earlier this month. One of my dearest friends is asking a question no one should have to ask—whether she is dying in part because people around her didn’t take this pandemic seriously.
I’ve known “Kathleen” for the better part of 20 years—dating back to the days when Yahoo! Messenger was a big thing. She’s a Type I diabetic, and this pandemic has been pretty rough on her. She lives in a Deep South state with a very low vaccination rate, where a lot of people act like it’s 2019. Despite being fully vaccinated, she’s had four bouts with COVID-19.

On Halloween—the same day as Oster’s call for amnesty went live—Kathleen’s doctor told her that her liver was severely damaged; she’s been having problems with her liver since this summer, going into jaundice at least once. The doctor believes it’s either cancer or complications from COVID. He had already made plans for either diagnosis. Had it been cancer, he was prepared to treat it with chemotherapy. Had it been COVID-related, Kathleen would have needed a transplant—but that would have been contingent on finding a way to pay for the powerful anti-rejection drugs she would have had to take for the rest of her life.

A week later, Kathleen told me that she isn’t willing to do either chemo or a transplant. She decided that she isn’t willing to deal with the pain and being constantly drained. However, she’s at peace about deciding to let things take their course. A devout Pentecostal, she is, as she put it, “ready to meet my Savior.” That doesn’t make it any less sad—or maddening, considering that this is a COVID complication. The prospect of cancer is horrifying enough. But the fact that Kathleen and her family even have to ask whether her liver problems are COVID-related is nothing short of an obscenity. It’s a reminder that wearing a mask and getting vaccinated aren’t just about protecting you; they’re about protecting those around you.

Indeed, I found myself thinking back to former Secretary of State and former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Colin Powell. Powell died of COVID last year despite being fully vaccinated. However, he had multiple myeloma, a cancer that attacks your white blood cells. Powell’s treatment regimen further weakened his immune system, making him particularly dependent on those around him to be vaccinated. If Kathleen’s liver problems do turn out to be COVID-related, she and her family would be in the same position as Powell’s family. That is, they would have to wonder whether Kathleen is in this debilitating situation because somebody, or a whole lot of somebodies, wasn’t willing to take rudimentary steps to keep those around them safe.

Situations like this are why it’s morally and intellectually dishonest to claim that getting vaccinated is a personal choice. It’s possible that someone’s “personal choice” may ultimately lead to Kathleen’s mother having to do what no mother should ever have to do—bury her child.

It’s also a reminder that, when you look at the impact this pandemic has had on our lives, it’s grossly derelict to just focus on the deaths. You have to consider the debilitating complications brought on by how COVID sends immune systems into overdrive.

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For Those Who Are High Risk, The Pandemic Is Far From Over (Original Post) appalachiablue Nov 2022 OP
and know that most people don't give a damn about you Skittles Nov 2022 #1
That definitely exists, & it's intolerable. I just reminded an older couple not to let up appalachiablue Nov 2022 #2
everyone should still be taking precautions Skittles Nov 2022 #3
Damn right! calimary Nov 2022 #4
❤️ littlemissmartypants Nov 2022 #7
Times a Brazilian! ❤️ littlemissmartypants Nov 2022 #6
You got that right! fleabiscuit Nov 2022 #8
Living in an at risk world sucks. I straight up tell people that I don't just wear masks for me... littlemissmartypants Nov 2022 #5
I luv your post, tell it, ha! Stay well. appalachiablue Nov 2022 #17
Thanks, appa! I'll try my best. You too! ❤️ littlemissmartypants Nov 2022 #20
My wife and I DENVERPOPS Nov 2022 #9
I'm right there with you Skittles Nov 2022 #16
I often ask: don't these Republican Politicians have children or grandchildren???? DENVERPOPS Nov 2022 #18
it's not just repukes Skittles Nov 2022 #19
Human beings are asses and nothing will change BigmanPigman Nov 2022 #10
It's a point of conflict in my family RainCaster Nov 2022 #11
The pandemic has drawn lines flamingdem Nov 2022 #12
My husband is now samplegirl Nov 2022 #13
Free Mary Mallon, because Freedom. multigraincracker Nov 2022 #14
There's plenty of good reason to continue masking in public. love_katz Nov 2022 #15

Skittles

(158,697 posts)
1. and know that most people don't give a damn about you
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 11:35 PM
Nov 2022

they'll "take their chances" because, you know, it's all about them

appalachiablue

(42,869 posts)
2. That definitely exists, & it's intolerable. I just reminded an older couple not to let up
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 11:46 PM
Nov 2022

In taking precautions, no how, no way. The beast is still around. I think they got it.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
8. You got that right!
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 01:31 AM
Nov 2022

Wife and I are vaxed to max for covid, and flu, but we still use masks when we leave the house. We avoid places with with a lot of people. Yes the vaccines should prevent death if we still get sick, but I'm compromised and don't want even that level of sickness.

littlemissmartypants

(25,369 posts)
5. Living in an at risk world sucks. I straight up tell people that I don't just wear masks for me...
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 01:24 AM
Nov 2022

I'm doing it because I tested positive* and I don't want to get anyone else infected like you, because in the USA just this year alone more than a quarter of a million people have already died from Covid.**

And then I cough several times, really loud, in their general direction.

I've also mastered the art of strategic social distancing using a large sized shopping cart. Both of my strategies are very satisfying. And after all, girls just wanna have fun.

Thanks for sharing this, appalachiablue.



❤️ pants



*This is a brazen lie.
**This is the scary truth.

DENVERPOPS

(9,916 posts)
9. My wife and I
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 01:39 AM
Nov 2022

KN*95 mask at all times when we are out of the house. I look around when I am at the store, getting gas, etc and I am the only person wearing a mask.......including other equally as old as we are...........

At least no one, esp TrumpHumping Republicans, have said a word to me about wearing a mask in a long time...................

Skittles

(158,697 posts)
16. I'm right there with you
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 06:55 PM
Nov 2022

I actually care about others and it shocks me how few people truly give a shit, disgusting really

DENVERPOPS

(9,916 posts)
18. I often ask: don't these Republican Politicians have children or grandchildren????
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 11:34 PM
Nov 2022

It is painfully clear that they only person on earth they truly care about is themselves.......

That ESPECIALLY applies to the Republican Senators for the past 4+years.......

Skittles

(158,697 posts)
19. it's not just repukes
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 11:51 PM
Nov 2022

the majority of people now really don't care about taking precautions against covid, they prefer to "take their chances" because, you know, it's all about THEM

BigmanPigman

(52,222 posts)
10. Human beings are asses and nothing will change
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 01:41 AM
Nov 2022

that, EVER! I have learned to accept this fact. Man, I hope there is no reincarnation since I do NOT want to be a person ever again. I do not enjoy my species one bit.

Some people will never do anything respectful or helpful because that is their true nature. At best they will do no harm. I think at least 25% of the world population fits into this group, likely 33%. Unless something specifically harms or threatens them they will do NOTHING to help anyone else. People suck and that is why dogs are a lot better than any person could hope to be.

I wear my N95 mask religiously when ever I leave my apt. to protect ME. I know no one is wearing their masks because I see about 3 people in an entire supermarket wearing one. I have always worn mine to protect me since I know people are self absorbed asses when it come to masking to help those with low immunity. No one cares about anyone's immunity anymore, they care about how uncomfortable it is to mask up, etc. Poor babies.

RainCaster

(11,531 posts)
11. It's a point of conflict in my family
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 01:54 AM
Nov 2022

Wife & I are fully vaccinated/boosted. Our daughter is immune compromised, and her brother refuses to get the shots. The two have got into a fight that had cost us so much in time, money and emotions. There are times when I feel like moving out of the country and leaving them behind.
The old guy shakes his head and mutters...

flamingdem

(39,891 posts)
12. The pandemic has drawn lines
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 02:08 AM
Nov 2022

Besides choices there's ignorance. Not sure always if it's willful when the CDC has been terrible at messaging.

love_katz

(2,791 posts)
15. There's plenty of good reason to continue masking in public.
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 06:41 AM
Nov 2022

Covid has not gone away. The flu gets passed around more during the winter, and I have seen articles warning that the incidence of flu is expected to be really bad this year. Viruses mutate much more quickly than the human immune system can adapt to, and masking reduces the number of host bodies. I have really enjoyed avoiding getting sick, and the two practices which seem to help the most is avoiding crowds and public places, masking when I need to go out, and social distancing wherever possible. I have practiced washing my hands for years, but my experience is that wearing a mask and avoiding crowds is the most effective way to avoid getting sick. Given the reactions that I have had to the vaccine, I would dread getting Covid. I can't comprehend why so many people are so selfish by refusing to wear a mask.

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