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appalachiablue

(42,869 posts)
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 09:19 AM Dec 2022

People Getting Sick with Mystery Illnesses, Testing Negative for Covid, RSV, Flu. Here's Why.

- People are getting sick with mystery illnesses & testing negative for COVID, RSV, & flu. Here's why. Insider/Yahoo, Dec. 7, 2022. -Ed.

If you have a fever, it may be a sign that you have the flu or COVID — or it could signal something else entirely.

A lot of people are sick in the US right now with fevers, coughs, and sore throats.

Flu and cold season has arrived early — and it's caught people by surprise.

If you have a fever, getting tested for the flu and COVID may help you access antiviral treatments.

It's the most wonderful time of the year ... to be a respiratory disease.

"The cold weather, the gathering indoors, all of that is good for respiratory viruses, and bad for symptoms," Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky said during a media briefing on Monday, stressing that multiple respiratory illnesses are here early this holiday season, challenging overstretched hospitals across the country. Flu cases and hospitalizations have soared since Thanksgiving, but some people are complaining that they're testing negative for the flu, RSV, COVID, while still extremely sick.

Writer Cora Harrington said on Twitter that she got some "weird as hell virus" that made her "basically unconscious for a couple days," calling it "one of the strangest illnesses I've ever had." General practitioner Stephanie de Giorgio from the UK said, similarly, that some kind of "not-flu, not-covid, not-RSV thing" was going around her workplace, & "felt bloody awful," prompting a fever & sore throat. Doctors from at least 3 continents say that many different viruses — not just flu & COVID — are having a real "party" this year. People also shouldn't discount the idea that a COVID, RSV, or flu test taken early on may not necessarily go positive. Here's what to consider if you're feeling feverish right now.

- Winter illness season is off to an early start: To give you a sense of how many sick people there are in the US, here is what the * CDC's weekly "influenza-like illness" MAP — which tracks how many people are showing up at doctor's offices with fevers & coughs or sore throats — looked like on Thanksgiving week in 2021: This red-hot level of "influenza-like illness" is a barometer that's based on patient symptoms (not viral tests) so it likely encompasses many cases of flu, COVID, & several other respiratory diseases showing up on doctors' doorsteps.

Trying to tell whether you've got the flu or COVID based on your symptoms? Good luck. "Fever, muscle aches, cough, headache, those are going to be common," Dr. Roy Gulick, chief of infectious disease at NY-Presbyterian & Weill Cornell Medicine, told Insider. "You really can't tell the difference between flu & COVID." This year's spike in respiratory illnesses has also arrived earlier than usual, & Gulick says it's "caught people by surprise" who haven't gotten their flu shot or COVID booster. But it's not too late to roll up your sleeves, if you haven't yet. "There is still time to get vaccinated," Walensky said. Flu season typically peaks in the US some time between Dec. & Feb., but the illness can circulate well into May, or even later on in the spring & summer, as it did last season..

Last week, nearly one in 10 deaths nationwide was due to influenza, COVID, or pneumonia. Tragically, experts say, many of those deaths were preventable...

- Read More + Maps, https://news.yahoo.com/people-getting-sick-mystery-illnesses-145200173.html

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People Getting Sick with Mystery Illnesses, Testing Negative for Covid, RSV, Flu. Here's Why. (Original Post) appalachiablue Dec 2022 OP
Why would people be surprised?..... Lovie777 Dec 2022 #1
Covid numbers are 50 percent higher than last week according to the CDC Blues Heron Dec 2022 #2
Whoa, that's serious. Thanks for posting. appalachiablue Dec 2022 #3
Your welcome - it definitely got my attention! Blues Heron Dec 2022 #5
Cases in NM are starting to decline Warpy Dec 2022 #9
way back in 1989 a very nasty contagious lung infection was ripping yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #4
Never stopped wearing a mask... 2naSalit Dec 2022 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author MenloParque Dec 2022 #7
I still use a mask all the time when out and use hand sanitizers. I really never stopped although RKP5637 Dec 2022 #8

Lovie777

(14,942 posts)
1. Why would people be surprised?.....
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 09:30 AM
Dec 2022

It is winter. A fair amount of people did and continue to refuse COVID and flu shots.

Blues Heron

(6,121 posts)
2. Covid numbers are 50 percent higher than last week according to the CDC
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 09:47 AM
Dec 2022

Week ending - new US cases

12/07 - 458,986
11/30 - 306,773
11/23 - 305,082
11/16 - 281,691
11/09 - 290,879
11/02 - 274,451
10/26 - 262,483
10/19 - 261,423

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklycases_select_00

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
9. Cases in NM are starting to decline
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 12:48 PM
Dec 2022

but some of the rural counties still have high rates. This state has a 93% vax rate, so the cases are most likely mild. Hospitalizatin rates are still well under 10% positive for Covid.

I'd love to know what the mystery virus is. I did see an electron microscope image of a truly frightening thing, several flu viruses attached to one end of a larger RSV virus, it looked like a tiny aquatic hydra. I have to wonder if that's the mystery virus, weird enough to evade the rapid assay for both flu and RSV but infectious and virulent, combining the worst of both.

I still think what cost me the month of August was a really bad flu. Do get the flu shot, you don't want that one.

yellowdogintexas

(22,664 posts)
4. way back in 1989 a very nasty contagious lung infection was ripping
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:07 AM
Dec 2022

through Evansville IN. I just woke up one morning feeling like there was an elephant on my chest, with fever & body aches. Called doctor and the nurse immediately worked me in because this strange bug was going around and I would need an x-ray to see if I was developing pneumonia.

It was a very nasty bronchitis and it laid me low for a week, with antibiotics for the infection which was bacterial.

So I am thinking something like that is this 4th infection. Masking up again.

2naSalit

(92,495 posts)
6. Never stopped wearing a mask...
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:30 AM
Dec 2022

My county has never been in a safe zone regarding density of infections this whole time. The county is a pass-through kind of place with a rather small population but millions pass through on their way to near attractions so people from everywhere come here and spread whatever they have.

Yesterday I went to a big box store in the next county over, there are none in my county, and I saw two other people, out of hundreds, wearing a mask too. We made eye contact with a sort of recognition that getting out of the store asap was the most expedient goal.

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RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
8. I still use a mask all the time when out and use hand sanitizers. I really never stopped although
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 11:07 AM
Dec 2022

I've had every shot covid and flu. There is just too much crap floating around. I had a horrible intestinal flu or whatever a few weeks ago, don't know what that was about, was the worst ever I've had.

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