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appalachiablue

(42,908 posts)
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 06:20 AM Aug 2023

Hospitals Sued Thousands of Patients In North Carolina for Unpaid Bills, Report: Property Liens

- Hospitals sued thousands of patients in North Carolina for unpaid bills, report finds, NPR, Aug. 16, 2023. Ed. 🥼

North Carolina hospitals — led by the state's largest public medical system — have sued thousands of their patients since 2017, according to a new analysis that sheds additional light on the aggressive tactics U.S. hospitals routinely use to collect from people who fall behind on their bills.

The report, produced by the state treasurer and Duke University School of Law researchers, and related patient interviews offer harrowing accounts of people pursued for tens of thousands of dollars and often surprised by liens that hospitals placed on family homes. In some cases, spouses were targeted after their partners died.

In others, patients interviewed by researchers said they'd been surprised to learn about property liens only after they tried to sell their homes or after a parent who owned the home died. "I know my house will never be mine. It is going to be the hospital's," said Donna Lindabury, 70, whose home was targeted by Charlotte-based Atrium Health, which won a $192,000 judgment against her and her 79-year-old husband over his 2009 heart surgery.

Interest on the debt represented more than half of the couple's balance. Lindabury said the hospital originally told them they could get assistance with the bills, but then denied their applications for aid. "People, where their God is money, they just don't care," she told researchers.. Nationwide, about 100 million people — 41% of adults — have some form of health care debt...

- Read More, https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/08/16/1194037110/hospitals-sued-thousands-of-patients-in-north-carolina-for-unpaid-bills-report-f

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Hospitals Sued Thousands of Patients In North Carolina for Unpaid Bills, Report: Property Liens (Original Post) appalachiablue Aug 2023 OP
It's a racket. 2naSalit Aug 2023 #1
Business run vulture 'heath care' in the US. appalachiablue Aug 2023 #2
Ahh, the health care mafia .... bucolic_frolic Aug 2023 #3
Truly, what a disgrace for this country & the American people. Tommy Douglas of Canada... appalachiablue Aug 2023 #5
Private equity and Atrium Health RSherman Aug 2023 #4
PE is devouring this country. TX for the book info, Plunderers for real appalachiablue Aug 2023 #8
The "Invisible Hand" Of The Free Market orthoclad Aug 2023 #6
"National Security" orthoclad Aug 2023 #7
DOD budget RSherman Aug 2023 #9

appalachiablue

(42,908 posts)
5. Truly, what a disgrace for this country & the American people. Tommy Douglas of Canada...
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 07:02 AM
Aug 2023


- "The Greatest Canadian," Tommy Douglas' government instituted the first single-payer, universal health care program. He is the father of actor Donald Sutherland and the grandfather of actor Kiefer Sutherland.
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- Thomas Clement Douglas PC CC SOM (20 Oct. 1904 – 24 Feb. 1986) was a Canadian politician who served as the 7th premier of Saskatchewan from 1944 to 1961 and Leader of the New Democratic Party from 1961 to 1971.

A Baptist minister, he was elected to the House of Commons of Canada in 1935 as a member of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (CCF). He left federal politics to become Leader of the Saskatchewan Co-operative Commonwealth Federation and then the seventh Premier of Saskatchewan.

> His government introduced the continent's first single-payer, universal health care program.

.. Douglas was awarded many honorary degrees, and a foundation was named for him and his political mentor M. J. Coldwell in 1971. In 1981, he was invested into the Order of Canada, and he became a member of Canada's Privy Council in 1984, 2 years before his death. -- In 2004, a CBC Television program named Tommy Douglas "The Greatest Canadian", based on a Canada-wide, viewer-supported survey...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
7. "National Security"
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 10:53 AM
Aug 2023

I'll connect this to my post on
https://democraticunderground.com/100218192404

These issues are not isolated.

Post #16:

The US spends more on its military than the NEXT TEN COUNTRIES COMBINED.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

As a percentage of global military expenditure, the US is number one at 39%. Countries 2 through 11 total out at 38%. China, #2, spends 13% of the global total - 1/3 of what the US spends.

What exactly are we defending against, and for whom?

We're told to imagine that these other countries are a threat to our security. Personally, I think we have FAR greater domestic threats than any of these other countries, like Mux, Zuckerthing, Koch and ilk.

For example, the people who crippled our response to covid cost three times as many US lives as were lost in WWII (a total of 429,000). The US leads the world in total covid mortality and is near the top in deaths per capita. Richest country in history, eh?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

It was Facebook illegally collaborating with Cambridge Analytica that threw the electoral college to Trump in 2016.

Does China send US sheriffs to evict US renters? Does Russia seize people's homes for medical debt? Does India give 98 year old newspaper owners heart attacks in illegal police raids?

We need to take a closer look at what "security" means.

RSherman

(576 posts)
9. DOD budget
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 12:21 PM
Aug 2023

I believe two years ago, Congress (bipartisan) agreed to DOD's budget request, then gave them $25B more than they even asked for! Last year, I believe they gave an extra $58B. And it's not about active or retired military members. Many members of Congress have defense contractors in their regions. I've heard these contractors are building planes and jets that the military does not even want. Then, (as in mentioned in the Plunderers book), politicians move fluidly between politics to regulators to CEOs. Total conflict of interest. Dick Cheney as VP had total access to our military/defense needs. You can bet he pushed Bush to go to war.

"Halliburton gained $39.5 billion in "federal contracts related to the Iraq war". Many individuals have asserted that there were profit motives for the Bush-Cheney administration to invade Iraq in 2003. Dick Cheney served as Halliburton's CEO from 1995 until 2000."

I also read that Cheney began getting rid of Army staff and replacing them with his privatized employees.

I just ordered this new book: War Made Invisible: How America Hides the Human Toll of Its Military Machine

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