Latest COVID News. Not Good. (The Let it Rip Strategy)

[appalachiablue]

- Daily Kos, Dec. 14, 2023. 'Latest COVID News - Not Good.' (Recs, 445, Comments, 215).

Stop risking Covid infection!

I posted a LENGTHY reply on another reclist story and decided that it probably needs to be its own post. I’ll simply paste it all below, but I’m triggered to post this as a standalone item because of SO MANY replies I see where folks are talking about their infection “this time” or making reference to the fact that they have had Covid multiple times. That’s… alarming. So I present below the alarm bells that are not being broadly discussed. Seriously people — the goal should be to NOT catch Covid. Full stop...

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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/12/14/2211711/-FFS-Stop-contracting-Covid

[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. The more times infected, the higher likelihood of Long Covid. . . . nt

[louis-t]

2. And the more chance of morphing to something

that can't be controlled.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. I thought OP was talking about individuals multiply infected, hence my point

Mutation is a separate but important issue.

[Tomconroy]

3. It never ceases to amaze me that people

credit articles about Covid by anonymous people of unknown or non-existent scientific credentials.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

5. What are you talking about? The article is studded with scientific references

NIH not good scientific enough for you?

The journal Nature? At least twice.

Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center.

Cedars Sinai.

CDC at least twice.

and more.

[Tomconroy]

8. Have you read each referenced citation? Do you know

If they are being cited accurately?
Valid scientific articles do not have anonymous authors.
Period.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. The papers cited do not have anon authors. Ball is in your court to prove your "if" assertion.

By your logic only scientists should write about science and only politicians should write about politics.

You disagree with the point of the article? The point is to take Covid seriously. Are you advocating we should not take it seriously until we've checked out every single reference, tracing scientist author biographies and reading their PhD dissertations to make sure they are 'true' scientists?

[Tomconroy]

11. I suggest you follow Prof. Marc Veldhoen on xitter.

A world renounced immunologist (the study of how viruses effect the human body). He evaluates virtually every scientific study of the effects of Covid soon after publication and has written a definitive article about Covid in relatively simple clear language that I have posted on here several times in the past and just can't be bothered to do it again.
I think it fair to say he would disagree of much of what this anonymous poster has written.

[Tomconroy]

12. Here:

https://www.thematic-ai.eu/prof-marc-veldhoen/sars-cov-2-new-and-familiar

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. So? How do his points differ from the papers in the article?

Thank you for posting. It is good to have a good summation, but there is much I don't understand about your objections.

What is your point in pointing to this guy? It doesn't seem like he is one of those quack doctors who push Ivermectin and zinc and rail against "death jabs". But neither are the medical scientists at NIH, MSLCC, Nature, etc.

Why should we pay attention to him and ignore the CDC and other institutions cited in the article you are complaining about? Does Prof Veldhoen disagree with the points the paper makes?

What is "thematic-ai.eu"? I am unable to read the Dutch about page, which names a different name, Ethika-AI, but the page is about Thematic-AI.

Is an AI (artificial intelligence) involved?

[Easterncedar]

6. Very important. Thanks for posting.

This a very persuasive call for caution. Everyone needs to read this!

[appalachiablue]

7. YW, I agree, people need to know the realities. No slacking!

[Skittles]

10. imagine how many people the multiple-infected have passed the virus onto

very disturbing indeed

[Phoenix61]

13. Content created by community member.

Ranks right up there with, “I read it on the internet.” so it must be true.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

14. Thank you for posting this

Covid cases are rising and too few people are vaccinated.

Link to tweet

[appalachiablue]

19. Thank you, yes people are becoming too casual and not

getting these vital vaccines.

- Info on JN.1, new COVID variant that's rising.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-12-14/what-to-know-about-the-new-covid-19-variant-jn-1

[appalachiablue]

23. YW, winter could be rough. People get educated & vaxxed!

[jmbar2]

16. Dr. Peter Hotez is another good follow on Covid

He has recently published a book on the overlap between antiscience and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, and how medical scientists need to be skilled in overcoming such arguments. He is a gem.

Link to tweet

[area51]

17. Yes, Dr. Hotez has very good info.

I hope to get a chance to read his recent book.

[appalachiablue]

18. Dr Hotez is terrific, thanks for mentioning him and the info.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

20. Hospitalization are up 17.6% and deaths due to #COVID19 are up 25% in a week.

Link to tweet

[appalachiablue]

21. Look at those nos., esp in the last week. People need a jolt

to realize what's happening. The recent booster vax took a lot more effort for me, I didn't get it until early Nov.

The RX depts at 2 CVS stores I use were understaffed and have gone to scheduling appoints. online for yourself instead of calling, and no walk ins. But at least they're still providing the service.

The nos. of people who haven't got the most recent vax are scary. And the govt. isn't covering as much of the cost for those uninsured and underinsured like in the past.

There is a CDC program to help with that, I posted about it here but I wonder how many people heard about it.

Repost *How To Get Covid Shot w/o Insurance: CDC *Bridge Access Program, Vaccines.gov 1-800-232-0233, (Oct. 12, 2023)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/114232456

[jmbar2]

22. Thanks for posting this reminder

I've been substituting at my local school - I'm only 1 out of 2 people wearing a mask. Meanwhile, teachers are picking up bugs from the kids right and left. Jobs for me, but risk for them. The teachers have the attitude that if it happens, it happens. Many are what I'd consider high risk.

Meanwhile, the local nursing homes report less than 10% of residents AND staff have gotten the booster. Post Christmas will be a high risk time.

I hate having to wear a mask all, especially because subbing requires a lot of walking. But I don't want to risk long covid.

[appalachiablue]

24. YW and thank you for an impt. post. I don't get people

who won't mask, I know it's uncomfortable at work with long hrs and lots of activity, but still consider the risks.

That's a shame about teachers who won't mask at your school. My sister was a preschool teacher and director for many years. She has a strong constitution, good stamina and kept on working thru many bad colds and chest infections.

The situation at nursing homes is so sad, the elderly and vulnerable and the often overworked and underpaid staff. I remember reading that during the first Covid year many residents and staff weren't vaxxed and there were lots of losses.

Stressed health aids often work several jobs to get by and so travel to 2 or 3 facilities a day spreading Covid. We have such serious problems in this country, esp for many on the margins. Stay well & take care!