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Jilly_in_VA

(10,890 posts)
Thu Jan 18, 2024, 11:18 AM Jan 2024

Ultraviolet light can kill almost all the viruses in a room. Why isn't it everywhere?

As I write this article, I have a cold.

At some point in the past couple of weeks, I managed to inhale a droplet of water suspended in the air that contained hundreds or thousands of copies of a virus (probably a rhinovirus, the kind that causes most common colds). That virus infected my throat and my sinuses, resulting in the sore throat and stuffed-up nose I have right now.

As inconveniences go, this feels rather minor. I think of my friends with small children, who are constantly careening between RSV and the flu and god knows what other infection their kids picked up in day care and brought back home. I think of my family in assisted living facilities, who sometimes find themselves confined to their rooms, unable to see their friends or interact with the outside world, when there’s a respiratory virus going around. I think of the roughly 1.3 million people a year who die of tuberculosis, a respiratory bacterium that we have yet to defeat. And, of course, I think of the 7 million or so people worldwide killed over the past four years by a respiratory virus spread this exact same way: Covid-19.

At least as long as human beings have lived in large, close groups, respiratory viruses have been present — sometimes an annoyance, sometimes a catastrophe. Though we’ve managed to create vaccines and drugs to blunt their effects, the viruses endure.

But there is a group of people who think we do not need to live this way. These scientists, activists, and entrepreneurs believe we’re going to look back on this era, one of commonly endured airborne infections, as a case of antiquarian barbarism, a bunch of needless suffering that we accepted because we didn’t know any better. They believe that we have the technology now, and will have even better technology soon, that could end respiratory infections for good, the way that disinfecting our drinking water with chlorine helped end typhoid as a major cause of death in the US.

The technology is called germicidal ultraviolet light (GUV), and in particular, a relatively novel kind of ultraviolet light often denoted as “far-UV.” “We have so much data suggesting that this is far and away the most impactful technology, when it comes to protecting people from infectious disease, that exists today,” says Kevin Esvelt, a professor and biologist at MIT who has championed the idea.

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/23972651/ultraviolet-disinfection-germicide-far-uv

Can't you just hear the wingnutters screaming now? "I have the right to get sick if I want to!"

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Ultraviolet light can kill almost all the viruses in a room. Why isn't it everywhere? (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Jan 2024 OP
I use a C-pap machine gab13by13 Jan 2024 #1
uv-a is very effective as a sanitizer, and very deadly if you are exposed to it... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #2
It's now widely used in hospitals. Quakerfriend Jan 2024 #3
ionized air works also. k55f5r Jan 2024 #4
For people on a C-pap machine gab13by13 Jan 2024 #5
Brand? vanlassie Jan 2024 #6
There's ultraviolet light and there's ultraviolet light Wonder Why Jan 2024 #7
I equipped my house water system (well) with an UV sterization System marked50 Jan 2024 #8

gab13by13

(25,267 posts)
1. I use a C-pap machine
Thu Jan 18, 2024, 11:26 AM
Jan 2024

and every day I clean the head piece, nasal piece, air hose, water container, filter, with ultraviolet light.

The machine can also be used to "clean" everyday items like credit cards, cell phone, whatever. I had a different kind of cleaning machine but I switched to ultraviolet 2 years ago and love it.

Oh yeah, I follow college wrestling and at the national tournament they use 8 mats at once. In between matches they run a "gizmo" across the mat that uses ultraviolet.

getagrip_already

(17,440 posts)
2. uv-a is very effective as a sanitizer, and very deadly if you are exposed to it...
Thu Jan 18, 2024, 11:32 AM
Jan 2024

Well, not deadly in the sense it will kill you in minutes, but it has a very high correlation with causing skin cancer and eye disease.

You don't want to be exposed to it.

Luckily there are devices that contain the light and pass air through it. They are expensive though.

Quakerfriend

(5,655 posts)
3. It's now widely used in hospitals.
Thu Jan 18, 2024, 11:35 AM
Jan 2024

When a patient is discharged the machine in brought in to ‘sterilize’ the room.

However, hospitals have limited equipment & can’t do every room.

There is a company that makes industrial lighting that emits the proper frequencies. These lights can suck air in and sterilize it before sending it back into the atmosphere- The plan is to use such lighting in schools, airports etc.

k55f5r

(420 posts)
4. ionized air works also.
Thu Jan 18, 2024, 11:38 AM
Jan 2024

My Drs. office has an air ionizer in the waiting room to catch those pesky water suspension drops. So does my home.

gab13by13

(25,267 posts)
5. For people on a C-pap machine
Thu Jan 18, 2024, 11:41 AM
Jan 2024

I recommend the sanitizer machine that I use that uses ultraviolet light. $259.00

Just for sanitizing small stuff.

Wonder Why

(4,589 posts)
7. There's ultraviolet light and there's ultraviolet light
Thu Jan 18, 2024, 01:21 PM
Jan 2024

Long wave ultraviolet aka black light is safe but ineffective against viruses

Short wave ultraviolet light is effective but can damage your eyes.

Having everyone using short ultraviolet is not smart. You either use filtering through having it expose objects in a closed container or by passing air past it where you can't see the light directly as people have mentioned. Using direct ultraviolet light should be left to trained people wearing protective eye gear to filter out the rays and know not to make it directly shine on them.

marked50

(1,441 posts)
8. I equipped my house water system (well) with an UV sterization System
Thu Jan 18, 2024, 08:23 PM
Jan 2024

Works just fine for years. Can't vouch for the actual virus destruction rate but we have been healthy for years....

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