Well, I finally got around to watching "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood"
OMG - IT'S SO LONG and it has NO PLOT! If anyone else other than Tarantino shopped the script around Hollywood, it would have gone straight in the trash. It's as long as Pulp Fiction, but things HAPPENED in PF. His movies still make money, but I have no idea why.
mitch96
(14,653 posts)onecaliberal
(35,802 posts)SamKnause
(13,804 posts)I thought it was boring.
Maybe I will finish it one day, or maybe not.
TygrBright
(20,987 posts)It was the guy equivalent of a Barbara Cartland novel - all fantasy and formula.
I know a lot of guys who just swooned over it.
There were certainly some humorous moments. (I admit I sort of liked the Bruce Lee sequence.)
But it was mostly just fantasy stuff, "what SHOULD have happened" from the Tarantino-brain.
The Tarantino-brain seems to have a solid line on a lot of guy-fantasy stuff about revenge and proving how corrupt 'the system' is, and how much bullshit is involved in, well, everything. And the Lonely Rebel tropes, and the bromance stuff, etcetera.
This movie took all those things and tossed them together like a big salad.
Chick-flick for the penis-endowed, basically. AKA "Dick-flick."
helpfully,
Bright
hlthe2b
(106,340 posts)To each his own.
Scrivener7
(52,739 posts)Sibelius Fan
(24,630 posts)we can do it
(12,774 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,669 posts)Titanic got lots of nominations and made a lot of money too. It's still just a soap opera on a big boat.
The Academy is still made up of mostly old white men who love big budget movies that employ a lot of people and make a lot of money. Ever since they increased the number of Best Picture nominees in 2009, its significance has been diluted. It's still more significant than the Golden Globes though, which are ludicrous.
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,042 posts)Watched it on some premium channel months ago, without knowing anything about the film beforehand.
I kept watching when it became clear that the girls were part of the Manson family. I was curious if it was going to show what happened to Sharon Tate (also portrayed in the movie) and the other murder victims.
Then it obviously departed from what really happened, but I couldn't help but laugh at the flamethrower scene in the pool.
LakeArenal
(29,797 posts)No movie will be Pulp Fiction.
I liked it better than his western where EVERYONE is ugly and hateful and everyone dies.
We are talking about it. I call it a win for the movie.
Croney
(4,923 posts)That rewriting of the horror story made my heart happy, if only for the few minutes I was able to let go of reality and dream.
And, Brad Pitt.
Sedona
(3,818 posts)In fact I called it a masterpiece on more than one occasion.
and then there was this
XanaDUer2
(13,850 posts)Polly Hennessey
(7,453 posts)JustAnotherGen
(33,549 posts)Like Robert Redford
XanaDUer2
(13,850 posts)hated Kill Bill.
I like the re-creation of 1969. Margot Robbie is so pretty, and Sharon Tate's sister said she captured her sister's spirit.
Imo, the best scene is at Spahn ranch. Pitt walked away with the movie. I purchased the extra scenes version.
Sedona
(3,818 posts)Kill Bill.
Unwatchable.
Go figure.
Django Unchained is off the hook.
Inglorious Bastards....
Alternate universe ending as well.
Pitt is SO good in that too!
TexasBushwhacker
(20,669 posts)There were parts of Kill Bill that were okay, but ultimately I think he should have made one solid 2 hour film instead of 2.
As they say, you must "kill your darlings" (or murder your babies depending on who your babies). QT is, and always has been, his own biggest fan. He would do so much better if he had a strong producer or editor who would reign him in.
The writer/director "auteur" method can produce amazing works of art, but it can also produce cinematic masturbation. I've grown tired of QT's racism and misogyny. I'm curious what he could do with someone else's script.
JustAnotherGen
(33,549 posts)Made me a fan. I didn't "get" him until that movie. Then Bastards, Pulp Fiction.
I loved the alternative chain of events.
rsdsharp
(10,118 posts)I know some of the people who provided them.
Itchinjim
(3,121 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(4,003 posts)I watch it whenever its on. Then again I watch all his movies over and over. QT is a master of the art.
MerryHolidays
(7,715 posts)We still watch it and find all sorts of hidden messages and symbolism after 30 or 40 times of watching it. It's funny, paid homage to so many movies, was brilliantly edited, had first-rate dialogue, etc. I can't say enough about the movie.
I always thought that the reason that each segment was out of linear sequence was that Tarantino was trying to show that a moment of redemption that can change your life can happen at any time, not just at the end of your life or at the end of a movie. And you either take that redemption or you don't. Everything can change depending on what you do or don't do when that moment presents itself. Powerful stuff.
Samuel L. Jackson's failure to be nominated as Best Actor and his not winning Best Supporting Actor was an Academy travesty. The dynamic range of his performance is incredible. Travolta, Willis, Thurman, Rhames etc. gave fantastic performances too. But, IMHO, without any doubt, Mr. Jackson was the life force behind "Pulp Fiction." The last 10 minutes of the movie, which was really just mid-way through a linear sequence, is one of the finest in all moviedom, and it's Samuel L. Jackson who carries it.
"Once upon a Time in Hollywood" was just ok for me. I guess its ending was what we wish, in hindsight, had happened with Manson and the Family. But, it was incongruous because we know it didn't happen and that the real ending was so horribly awful. Great performances by Leonardo, Brad, Margot, etc., but it cannot match the magic of "Pulp Fiction".
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(5,170 posts)It was a pretty good retelling of the Manson story with Tarantino's fairy tale ending. That's a solid plot. Nobody else but Tarantino would have come up with that script. It is genius. Tarantino said he would do 12 films and this was his 11th. I told my wife (not a Tarantino fan who liked the movie) that he just needs to quit with this one because I don't think he can top it.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,669 posts)Manson was a white supremacist who wanted to start a race war (Helter Skelter).
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,170 posts)With a fairy tale ending instead of the actual ending.