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doc03

(36,766 posts)
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 08:58 AM Mar 2024

I watched The American Conspiracy/Octopus Murders last night on Netflix. It is an interesting

investigation into the Republican conspiracy and string of murders starting with the Reagan Administration.
It goes into Reagan's deal with Iran to hold the hostages until after the election and then the Iran-Contra
case. It ends with the investigator being found dead in a Martinsburg WV hotel room. He was found dead
in the bathtub with one wrist cut 8 times through the tendons and the other one cut 4 times through
the tendons. The local cops after the feds got involved declared it a suicide and the investigation was closed.
The accusation is he was getting too close to the smoking gun and the CIA had him taken out. Is it a vast conspiracy
or not, we will probably never know for sure. It is in four episodes about 42 minutes each.

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I watched The American Conspiracy/Octopus Murders last night on Netflix. It is an interesting (Original Post) doc03 Mar 2024 OP
Wanted to leighbythesea2 Mar 2024 #1
Thanks. MuseRider Mar 2024 #2
Just finished Ferryboat Mar 2024 #3
I think there were 7 main Republican doc03 Mar 2024 #4
Putin whitsle blowers fall out of windows, Iran Contra whitsle blowers kill themselves 2 or 3 times over Cheezoholic Mar 2024 #5
It's on my list intrepidity Mar 2024 #6
Just finished it. Very unsatisfying ending. intrepidity Mar 2024 #7

MuseRider

(34,381 posts)
2. Thanks.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 10:01 AM
Mar 2024

I have been looking at it when I have down time and just found myself going after light weight fun. I never even considered going back to that awful time. I believe I will now, it sounds good and not just put out for entertainment. Those were bad years.

Cheezoholic

(2,628 posts)
5. Putin whitsle blowers fall out of windows, Iran Contra whitsle blowers kill themselves 2 or 3 times over
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 12:20 PM
Mar 2024

Same story in Gary Webb was chasing down before he supposedly shot himself TWICE in the head. He was chasing it down from the opposite side that Danny was, the crack cocaine side, in a San Jose Mercury News series called Dark Alliances.
There's a movie, Kill the Messenger, based on it.

I have no doubt the whole Iran Contra shit was for real, it's pretty much been proven. The fact these two investigative reporters chased this story for so long and refused to let up should raise even a skeptical eyebrow. There's just too much in common including both of them killing themselves more than once. In Webb's case, how do you shoot yourself in the head twice?.

In 1988 there was a cassette tape that was getting passed around side by side with Dead shows being traded (no internet, oh no!)of a lecture by Daniel Sheehan (I know he's a crack pot) given in 1987. Sheehan and the Christic Institute filed a law suit against the US govt. over Iran Contra. When I listened to this speech I found it intriguing. When I saw the Casolaro story on the net an alarm went off and I remembered this lecture and became kind of a conspiracy nut thinking this whole thing was really deeper and more egregious than originally thought. This was the early days of the visual internet (Not just compuserve message boards) and I started reading Webbs series.

Regardless and at the risk of sounding like a MAGAT on the other side, I'm convinced the Nixon, Raygun, and both Bush administrations were 100% racist fascist conspiracy enterprises. In the early days you could see it, this tape helped push me over the edge so to speak.

I was actually able to find a link with a copy of the audio that was on that cassette of that lecture that also includes a link to the transcript of it that someone did. Give it a listen or read if you're interested, it's pretty eerie and is in lock step with the tragic, IMO murders, of these two brave reporters who flew too close to the truth.

https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2002/10/02/1526891.php?show_comments=1#1529371

intrepidity

(7,895 posts)
6. It's on my list
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 01:11 PM
Mar 2024

I remember when I first came to DU, there was a poster who knew a lot about this story and posted quite a bit. I think he's still here ("Octa-"something, fish maybe? Not sure.)

intrepidity

(7,895 posts)
7. Just finished it. Very unsatisfying ending.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 12:20 AM
Mar 2024

If the goal was to make the viewer as confused and frustrated as the filmmaker/investigator was, mission accomplished. Usually documentaries, often only at the very end, have some sort of conclusion or at least their best understanding of what happened. This one did not. They stopped digging right at the end when it seemed they were finally getting some real info. Grrr.

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