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Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 11:04 AM Sep 2013

A year ago today, I walked out of the day hospital program, and ...

... what do I have to show for the past year? Nada, zip, zilch, zero.

It all sucks. I don't feel like I will ever escape from the ongoing nightmare. I thought a change of Dx would help, but it really didn't, I have the same problems no matter what is written on a medical record.

I know, negativity and feeling sorry for myself. What else is new?

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A year ago today, I walked out of the day hospital program, and ... (Original Post) Denninmi Sep 2013 OP
Glad to see you posting again intaglio Sep 2013 #1
Dear Den, elleng Sep 2013 #2
Ah, one of those days when you feel like kicking teddy bears. Denninmi Sep 2013 #3
I LOVE ultra-casual Fridays!!! elleng Sep 2013 #4
Hey, great you're getting some of his mess cleaned up. Denninmi Sep 2013 #8
Cottage is on the Patuxent River, which feeds into the Chesapeake Bay. elleng Sep 2013 #14
Sorry to hear you have hit a rough patch... 2theleft Sep 2013 #5
AND - I totally disagree that you have nothing to show for it. 2theleft Sep 2013 #6
Oh, I know this intellectually. Denninmi Sep 2013 #7
Ok. Glad you know that at least intellectually. 2theleft Sep 2013 #9
It's like track 7 or 8 on "This Is Country Music" Denninmi Sep 2013 #10
Well over a year ago, I walked out of an out-patient program HereSince1628 Sep 2013 #11
I'm sorry, that's rough. Denninmi Sep 2013 #12
Sorry I should have just said nothing... HereSince1628 Sep 2013 #13
I have similar issues and I've turned to clinical trials TexasBushwhacker Sep 2013 #15
I've often wondered... davidthegnome Oct 2013 #16
Thanks, that's nice. Denninmi Oct 2013 #17

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
1. Glad to see you posting again
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 11:38 AM
Sep 2013

Sometimes you are reduced to just plodding on seeming to get nowhere. Sometimes though you find that the uphill trudge has got you onto a hilltop and, perhaps, even a ridgeway.

Good luck!

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
3. Ah, one of those days when you feel like kicking teddy bears.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 11:49 AM
Sep 2013

What can I say ... at least I had enough sense to ask the new psych for something - she gave me good old fashioned cheap prozac. That should help. I guess all of this goes with the territory. We're getting into some really deep and painful stuff during therapy. Mostly I'm really pissed about my childhood, it was stolen from me. So, I brood.

OTOH, it's sunny, warm, and I'm sitting here at work in shorts and a comfy cotton shirt -- boss is in DC today, so I declared ultra-casual Friday. My co-worker is pregnant, so she was so down with dressing comfy today.

elleng

(135,796 posts)
4. I LOVE ultra-casual Fridays!!!
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:02 PM
Sep 2013

(Don't recall I had any when working, but now, well, just have to find some sweats!)

You surely have a lot of sense, Den, and tho theft of childhood is very serious and burdensome, you are positioned to develop a satisfying rest of life.

I cried yesterday when finally clearing everything out of husband's apartment. He messed me up for many years, also messed up daughters tho they don't know it, but I'm on my way to my cottage, and beginning to enjoy my next chapter. Warm here too, and weekend will be sunny. When I brood these days its only momentary, NOTHING compared with the 10 or so years on anti-depression meds.

Later; heading out on the road. And of course, if you're ever east, I'm here, to show the place to you!!!

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
8. Hey, great you're getting some of his mess cleaned up.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:36 PM
Sep 2013

And I'm so glad the cottage worked out. It's near the ocean, or Chesapeake Bay, right? Does that mean softshell crabs in season? I love those.

elleng

(135,796 posts)
14. Cottage is on the Patuxent River, which feeds into the Chesapeake Bay.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 05:55 PM
Sep 2013

I love softshell crabs too! Next spring, I guess! Found some shells on my lawn today, small ones, but will keep looking. I understand this area is full of things of archaeological interest.

2theleft

(1,137 posts)
5. Sorry to hear you have hit a rough patch...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:14 PM
Sep 2013

From some of your other lounge posts and others about exercising and such, I thought you were in a much better place. It also is SO hard when therapy gets rough. Hang in there...you may have been robbed of your childhood, but they can't take the rest of your life from you if you don't let them. I know that's easier said than done - I struggle with it a lot, but hang in there. You are so strong. You will get through it.

2theleft

(1,137 posts)
6. AND - I totally disagree that you have nothing to show for it.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:24 PM
Sep 2013

From what I've read, you have increased confidence, you have pushed yourself physically, you have overcome so many things when you were at your darkest. Please, take a minute to really think about where you were a year ago and where you are today. The difference in how you write/what you write is amazing - I know it may not seem significant to you, but from my perspective, you have grown tremendously.

Keep your chin up and keep moving forward. Let us know how we can help.

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
7. Oh, I know this intellectually.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:35 PM
Sep 2013

Just kicking teddy bears and scowling at rainbows today. If a unicorn walks by, I'll probably stab it to death with a pencil and cook it in the microwave for lunch. One of those days.

On edit, there is this Brad Paisley song I like called "One of Those Lives" - it's based on something in real life, a family he knows whose kid was fighting cancer, he contrasts his shitty day of feeling sorry for himself because work sucks and traffic is snarled with what the family is going through finding out the little boy is out of remission.

I think I need to play that on infinite loop this afternoon on my phone.

2theleft

(1,137 posts)
9. Ok. Glad you know that at least intellectually.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:46 PM
Sep 2013

And I can totally relate on the kick the teddy bears day. I'm having one of those as well, but more because of annoying co-workers than my own personal demons, which is good in a way. Happy to hear it is more of a bad day than a long term feeling.

I love Brad Paisley, but don't know that song...I'm going to have to go find it.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
11. Well over a year ago, I walked out of an out-patient program
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:08 PM
Sep 2013

having been told that I was incurable and the psychologist didn't have time to deal with it.

I can't say my circumstance is better or worse. It certainly left me with all the same mental problems, and a fairly severe state of discouragement.

Since that time, I've added prostrate cancer and heart failure to my various other medical diagnoses.

In a foolish moment I looked at the Kaiser calculator for ACA...it says for a silver plan I'd have to pay over $8000 per year. Almost 4 times my income.

Moreover I don't qualify for subsidies because my state isn't expanding medicaid, and the calculator says I'd get a zero tax credit. I suppose the latter is because my taxes are already zero.

Wow, another crack to slip through. I thought I'd reached bottom a while ago, but apparently it's gonna get wor$e.




Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
12. I'm sorry, that's rough.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 03:44 PM
Sep 2013

Makes my circumstances seem insignificant. I hope you can find some relief, financial as well as medical, for all of that.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
13. Sorry I should have just said nothing...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 05:38 PM
Sep 2013

I didn't mean to create a sense of competition, but to present the other side...the bad example so to speak

Emotional calculus...differentials...feeling bad isn't about amplitude, but rather the slope of our trajectory.








TexasBushwhacker

(20,646 posts)
15. I have similar issues and I've turned to clinical trials
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:05 PM
Sep 2013

There are a lot of new drugs for mood disorders being studied, and in some cases they are studying the antidepressant effects of older drugs. I'm currently participating in a study of Riluzole, which is a drug for ALS that affects the the neurotransmitter glutamate. I can't say it helps because I ended up being on the placebo, but during the next phase I'll get to take the real drug. There are also clinical trials soon using the drug ketamine, which shows some promise for helping depressed patients quickly.

You can look up clinical trials in your area here:

http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/home

Some of the studies are even compensated. I get $25 a week for the one I'm doing now.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
16. I've often wondered...
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 08:59 AM
Oct 2013

If living in an area where a day program, or real treatment was available, would make a difference. When you're living in a rural area, far away from any true city, when it takes months to get to see a psychiatrist, well, your options are rather limited. They become even more limited when you can't get health insurance - no, not under Obamacare either as I just lost my job. Add to that the fact that Maine's governor is rejecting federal money for health insurance assistance, and, well...

Negativity, feeling sorry for myself... yep, that could be a summary for me as well. Still, I thought I would respond to your post (rather late, but a response) because you responded to mine.

It can be something of a roller coaster, living with mental illness, particularly when it becomes severe. Or, when it may seem like an endless cycle of going from hope to misery, from ambition to surrender. Me, this is my millionth or so breakdown and I've lost just about everything.

What keeps me hanging on Dennimi... what stops me from completely throwing in the towel, are the people around me that love me. It is the knowledge that, if something happened to me, they would be miserable, perhaps suffer as I have suffered, because of the loss. Now maybe that's a trifle narcissistic, but perhaps true at the same time. It is those poor folks who give a damn, who struggle with me through every failure and fall.... that keep me clinging on.

I know that there are times when it seems hopeless, when it seems like the misery will never end. But all the same... give it time, you will smile again. You will laugh again. You will love and weep and struggle and succeed. Whether in great ways or small ones.

This too shall pass in time. I know that doesn't make the current suffering any easier - it doesn't for me, either. Yet... twenty-nine, a million times over I could have surrendered, and I've damn close at times. Somehow, I'm still here. Because I refuse to give up completely. Because I choose to still believe that somewhere, somehow, some time, things will get better. The will to live and to thrive is a powerful thing.

I'm miserable too, right there with you. Just letting you know I give a damn, and telling you what helps me keep going. At the end of the day, it's the people that care.

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
17. Thanks, that's nice.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 09:05 AM
Oct 2013

I imagine access to care is much harder in rural areas and small states. I'm lucky to live in a major metropolitan area, with dozens of choices of health systems, and probably hundreds of MD's, psychologists, etc. Of course, paying for it here is still an issue for so many people. I hope that ACA helps with that, I think mental health parity is part of it.

Yeah, we do keep hanging in there, don't we. I just came to realize, it's not weakness to not give in, it's strength, it's the harder path. It takes more courage to face life than to face death.

Thank you for your response, please feel free to PM me any time if I can help, or just listen.

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