Spare us the sight of men discussing abortion – especially politicians

[niyad]

Spare us the sight of men discussing abortion – especially politicians
Emer O'Toole

If you will never be in the position of needing one, we don’t really want to hear your thoughts on the matter. That includes you, Tim Kaine and Mike Pence

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‘These two men were about to climb into the wombs of all American women and plant their flags.’ Photograph: ddp USA/REX/Shutterstock



Do you know what’s a relief about Hillary Clinton running for president? There’ll be no rage-inducing section in the debates when two men discuss what reproductive rights they’ll attempt to grant or deny women should they be elected. Oh wait. I forgot about the vice-presidential debate. Darn.
My first reaction to Mike Pence and Tim Kaine’s head-to-head was to try to remember how or why anyone watched presidential debates when they were just two white guys interrupting each other. And my second, when Pence introduced the topic of abortion, was a feeling of creeping dread. These two men were about to climb into the wombs of all American women and plant their flags – an operation every bit as uncomfortable as it sounds.

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I knew what was coming. Because I am from Ireland: a country where male abortion oration has been exalted to an art form. To give examples from just the past week (otherwise the selection would be overwhelming), on Sunday Senator Ronan Mullen wrote a column for the Irish Independent vilifying women who travel to England to terminate pregnancies with fatal abnormalities. For Mullen, these women have denied a sick baby “the dignity of being allowed to reach a natural end. The same day, Archbishop Eamon Martin warned Irish politicians “not to leave their faith outside of the door” when forming abortion policy (which, trust me, they were never planning to do anyway). I am from a country where, earlier this year, the group Family & Life held a pro-life event in which all three speakers were men. Men who, when questioned, saw nothing strange about the gendered composition of their learned gathering. I’m from a country where national radio shows routinely exclude Irish women from debates about their reproductive rights. I knew what was coming.
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It has been largely absent only if you ignore Clinton’s consistent attention to Trump’s anti-choice rhetoric; how she proudly touts the endorsement of Planned Parenthood (the first endorsement of a primary candidate in the organization’s 100 year history); that she is running on a ticket supporting repeal of the Hyde Amendment, which blocks federal funding for abortion. The abortion issue has been absent only if you ignore the fact that Clinton is about as provocatively pro-choice as any presidential candidate has dared to be.

But Clinton’s feminist politics are beside the point somehow. What’s really exceptional is when two men bare their souls on what abortion means to them. With those pesky women out of the way, they can intelligently explore this fraught question.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/06/men-discussing-abortion-politicians-kaine-pence

[CrispyQ]

1. Excellent commentary.

Another woman here who is sick to death of men legislating our reproductive rights. Unless you have a uterus, then you have no right denying or forcing an abortion on someone who has a uterus. That there are frequently panels of entirely men discussing the issue makes me go ballistic.

[niyad]

2. you are absolutely correct. I keep remembering the picture of one particular congressional hearing

--ALLLLLL men.

[dembotoz]

3. while i see you point i do hope you do not ignore your male supporters

[niyad]

4. you know that the article is not talking about the men who do understand and support us.