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steve2470

(37,468 posts)
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 02:58 PM Jul 2014

fire alarm problem (maybe ?)

I moved into my condo 10 months ago, so I don't know the precise condition of my fire alarm. There's never been any fires or even smoke of any kind.

Today I was taking a nap. The fire alarm started blaring off intermittently and woke me up. I jumped out of my bed, confirmed there was no fire quickly and turned the damn thing off at the breaker box. I just now restored power to it and it squawked briefly as I did.

The power supply where I live has gone down twice (both in the last month) in ten months, and had some brownouts/surges, per my UPS hooked up to my computer. Could the fire alarm have been triggered by a brownout, surge or outage ? Besides that, I have no idea why the fire alarm would go off when there's no fire or smoke. Thanks for your time.

Steve

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fire alarm problem (maybe ?) (Original Post) steve2470 Jul 2014 OP
Does your fire alarm have batteries? Kaleva Jul 2014 #1
ok I'll have to climb up there and check that, thanks ! nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #2
It's not by chance also a CO2 detector, is it? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #3
I don't know steve2470 Jul 2014 #4
If that thing is hard wired it could very well be Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #5
Ok I climbed up my stepladder to look at it steve2470 Jul 2014 #6
Ours look quite similar Adsos Letter Jul 2014 #7
hmmm I'll try again tomorrow steve2470 Jul 2014 #8
end to the smoke detector saga (not fire alarm, as I found out) steve2470 Jul 2014 #9
Smoke detectors will trigger if they get dusty Nac Mac Feegle Jul 2014 #10

Kaleva

(38,164 posts)
1. Does your fire alarm have batteries?
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 05:26 PM
Jul 2014

Many do even if they are wired in. Could be the batteries, if it does have such, are getting old and need to be replaced.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,691 posts)
5. If that thing is hard wired it could very well be
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:32 AM
Jul 2014

I think most of the hard wired units were done as new construction/remodel and most building codes require CO2

steve2470

(37,468 posts)
6. Ok I climbed up my stepladder to look at it
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 04:20 PM
Jul 2014

I tried to get the round mustard-colored plastic housing off the unit but only succeeded in prying it loose from its circular mounting bracket. Since I'm a klutz with mechanical things (who would have thought, huh), I didn't try very long to get the housing off the unit to check for a battery. I screwed it back into its mounting bracket.



It looks a lot like that one above, except a tad taller overall unit and mustard-colored. After I restored the AC power to it, everything was fine until today, when it squawked again. The WEIRD thing is, if the battery is dead or dying, why the hell would it not squawk every 15 minutes or so ? I can't see a battery in it so far, but then again I'm having to work at arm's length with it. Of course, I can't see a brand name yet.

I really don't want to break this thing accidentally.

ETA: I just restored the AC power to it, and it did NOT squawk at me at all. The red indicator light is lit inside the unit, so I'm assuming it's functional.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
7. Ours look quite similar
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 08:46 PM
Jul 2014

When the battery loses enough juice it will begin to squawk; fairly long intervals at first, with shorter and shorter intervals as the power decreases.
On ours, the light is green when fully functional.

steve2470

(37,468 posts)
8. hmmm I'll try again tomorrow
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 08:53 PM
Jul 2014

It's mounted pretty high up on my living room wall, so it's really hard to do things with it without getting a really high stepladder. If mine is like yours, I'm guessing the battery is totally dead now.

steve2470

(37,468 posts)
9. end to the smoke detector saga (not fire alarm, as I found out)
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 08:09 PM
Jul 2014

The damn thing was a SMOKE DETECTOR, not fire alarm. It is so old, the company doesn't even list it on their website. There was no battery inside. It was a totally AC-powered unit.

It was a BRK Electronics 1769ACI smoke detector. I found an old manual to it, which states the possible problem:

There is no battery backup on model 1769ACI. Try vacuuming the smoke detector to remove dust that may be causing the alarm to think it is smoke particles.


Now I'm off to replace it. Thanks so much for your patience everyone, and hopefully this information will help someone else.

eta: It may be over 30 years old, per this forum post.

Steve

Nac Mac Feegle

(978 posts)
10. Smoke detectors will trigger if they get dusty
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 01:03 AM
Jul 2014

They work by looking for something obstructing a gap (such as smoke). If they get some dust build up in the gap, they will falsely trigger. If it's been in place a long time, there could be a buildup in the sensor gap. They're not really difficult to replace, if you have a ladder and a couple of tools.

Good luck.

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